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Apparently Labor is going to treat Incel ideology similarly to political Islam in the UK (BBC, Guardian).
As a freedom of speech apologist, I don't think that this is a good development, but just the response to the latest moral panic and about as justified as the response to 'D&D satanism'.
What should be illegal is incitement to crimes. I am sure that this is already illegal in the UK. "Blow up Parliament for Allah", "Rape some bitches to protest against wokism", "Kill a cop to bring forth the dictatorship of the proletariat" are not protected speech, if anyone posts them on their facebook they would quickly be removed and the poster charged.
Of course, even here, technically enforcing this on more obscure pages is basically impossible without cracking down on the free internet as much as the CCP does (and possibly not even then). Punish what you can find and don't lose too much sleep over some .onion board which you can't police, or infiltrate them if it looks like they are planning concrete crimes in the physical world.
To make broader pieces of ideology illegal, such as "people should live according to Sharia law" or "Capitalism is just a development stage to be overcome" or "Women should have less/more power" would curtail freedom of speech too much for my taste.
I also don't think it will succeed on the object level much. Given that the punishments for simply reading the wrong ideology is hopefully going to be light (CSAM being the only content where merely intentionally viewing it should be a crime), that prohibition will do little to dissuade people from consuming Incel ideology. The main reason why an edgy teenager would not read something widely considered bad is not because the government forbids it, which is to admit 'this is so dangerous that we can't allow people to read it', but that it is generally considered lame in his circles. If Mrs. Cooper bans Incel ideology, that will make Incel ideology less lame, not more lame, because established politicians are invariably lame. (My vocabulary is probably half a century out of date, my point stands.)
They have no other option.
They have created a society in which people have less sex than ever, have fewer children than ever and can only dream of getting the housing their parents had at the same age. They have no idea how to fix it so the result is to find ways to make the people who point out the problems seem illegitimate.
There were large riots due to the problems immigration has caused. Nobody in government has a serious and realistic plan for fixing the massive issues so instead of acknowledging them they simply have to blame a handful of Russian accounts. It can't have anything to do with crime, lack of social cohesion, rampant housing shortages or any other issue that the politicians simply can't fix.
If someone is living with their parents at the same age that their parents owned a house the problem has to be their micropenis. They are loser incels and therefore not worth engaging with. There is no political option to create affordable housing as it would completely crash the financial system to bring down housing prices to 3x an average annual salary. Therefore, what is left is repression and arguments that are insults.
Incels are a real threat to the system. The system has failed to create a society in which people can find housing, start a family. People are angry and politicians have no solutions. Lots of young men with nothing to lose and no prospects are the greatest threat to any regime.
The birth rate makes the UK pension system completely unsustainable. Filling the gap with third world labour is going to cause major issues for which nobody has any answers. So if you ask how this is going to be solved your dick is small, you are ugly, your momma is fat and you are a Russian bot so you have no legitimacy.
Good analysis.
The ultimate irony is that if the Bonglander government was REALLY interested in bringing the hammer down on misogynists, it would be siding with Britain’s recent “””far-right””” anti-immigration rioters rather than against them. A Rwandan migrant knife-attacks a girl’s dance school and the party line is that people subsequently protesting against immigrants and mosques hate women? Clownworld.
Oi you got a loicense for that Noticin' you did there, guvna?
Labour is effectively pot committed to the strategy of bringing in unlimited third world ineffectives. Labour first fucked up by letting EU migration flood the UK economy and distort the local labour supply and demand curves, then the Tories shit the bed with handling Brexit and failed to contain MENA immigration. Labour, being held hostage to its progressive and islamist wings under Corbyn did not even pretend at objecting to the floodgates and in fact covered up the negative consequences of Muslim crime even before Corbyn came into power, suggesting that Labour was aware of the negative effect of muslim flooding following Brexit.
This is the reason for two-tier policing coming to the forefront. The tories shit the bed as they are incompetent brainlets huffing copium about Singapore-On-The-Thames and other fanciful platitudes, but the UK is in a genuinely tough spot because of its internal incentive structures. All Labour can do not is play with statistics to dampen the flames and hope that a lucky roll with give a magic opportunity to change the social dynamics soon enough.
I would like to think even the most staunch Momentum progressive knows that it is better for migrants to adapt to British culture, no matter how loathsome they may find the Britisher, as opposed to British people changing to be more like the migrants, but I don't really have faith in that. Progressive brainrot generates plenty of thinkpieces about how the west has no culture and that the multiculturalism of pedophiliac welfare jihadists is a good thing for a country. If Starmer doesn't get ahead of this rot in the larty, his only chance for survival will be the continued cuckcaging of the Britisher, and I'm not sure how long it will take before the Britisher realizes the cage isn't actually locked.
From an outsider's perspective I think that there's a lot of mask off going on with the political response to the current situation. The panic is telling because they've ostensibly overreacted, but this doesn't leave them anywhere else to escalate to unless they want to go down the 'V for Vendetta' path.
The migrant to GDP path has failed. There needs to be a correction back to sanity, but how and when that happens is really up in the air.
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