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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 17, 2022

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Can we have a thread about Alex Jones? Apparently the "victims" of his actions are pushing for something like a trillion dollar award.

I get it, he spoke some really shitty things about some people that just lost their children in a horrendous event. I can't imagine what they're going through. But I can't get past this mental block of "Yeah he said some shitty things, but he never directed his followers to do harassment, and the parents essentially just got cyber bullied, like just walk away from the screen, seriously. There were like two incidents of real life harassment, which have been prosecuted, and also were inflicted upon the parents who chose to engage with the public media."

Am I missing something here? Why is he being destroyed so thoroughly?

Why is he being destroyed so thoroughly?

Thinking about it again, this question belies a misunderstanding of just how seething mad we'd expect Jones's victims to be. He's basically engaged in an old school feud with these people, who did absolutely nothing to provoke him besides have their lives ruined.

We live in a society where we resolve things with court cases and laws and such. For most of human history, this group of victims would probably have just murdered Jones for being a pest. We live in a unique period where we don't allow you do that just because you're justifiably angry.

A judgment like this tries to protect society from that chaos. It acknowledges that what Jones had done is beyond the pale, but mollifies the homicidal rage of the wronged.

Free speech is meant to protect citizens from a tyrannical government, isn't it? If he'd stuck to defaming the government like a normal person, I suspect he wouldn't be in nearly so much trouble.

There seems to be a misunderstanding on the actual situation.

My understanding was that Alex Jones covered the conspiracy theory but did not actually originate it.

Schizos would have harassed the parents of these supposedly dead kids whether Alex Jones existed or not.

Maybe that one guy shouldn't have made that very odd laugh on camera right before talking about his kid(s?) getting shot.

Maybe AJ did insist too much on it, but even then, this is just suppression of political opponents.

Kind of what happened with Kanye West 'You can't say George Floyd died from fentanyl' while what they meant was 'You can't say that jews control the media and banks, or else we will disparage you and unbank you!'

None of these people care about the dead kids' parents, but they do care about the other stuff he was talking about, probably Epstein and co.

He didn't 'cover' it, he aired it. While a few Schizos might have harassed them anyway, his audience of Schizos surely follow him more than originating ideas individually; otherwise why watch him?

Maybe that one guy shouldn't have made that very odd laugh on camera right before talking about his kid(s?) getting shot.

So one non-professional-broadcaster's bad emote on camera makes them more culpable than years of lies from a professional broadcaster? No.

Kind of what happened with Kanye West 'You can't say George Floyd died from fentanyl' while what they meant was 'You can't say that jews control the media and banks, or else we will disparage you and unbank you!'

I have no idea what you're on about here, but as far as I know Kanye West isn't being charged with any crimes, so I don't understand the comparison.

None of these people care about the dead kids' parents

Who are 'these people'? The parents are the plantiffs.

but they do care about the other stuff he was talking about, probably Epstein and co.

MSM covered Epstein though.

MSM covered Epstein though.

Barely his accomplices (Ghislaine Maxwell and others) and hardly ever the clients of his blackmailing business.

People like Kanye West or Alex Jones will get everything taken away from them for speaking about one thing or another while human traffickers and their friends will hardly get anything happen to them.

When is Les Wexner getting unbanked for his friendship with Epstein?

Barely his accomplices (Ghislaine Maxwell and others)

Absolutely covered Maxwell, her trial was regularly front page news.

People like Kanye West or Alex Jones will get everything taken away from them

Nobody is taking Kanye's wealth except maybe whoever is bilking him into buying a social media site.

When is Les Wexner getting unbanked for his friendship with Epstein?

Right after Clinton, Trump, Gates, and Musk I imagine.

How many of the articles covering Maxwell bring up her dad's Mossad ties?

Nobody is taking Kanye's wealth except maybe whoever is bilking him into buying a social media site.

You must have missed the breaking of his contract by Adidas and other companies breaking business ties with him?

It's not his money until he earns it. An endorsement deal is not a suicide pact. Adidas isn't required to keep a pariah as it's brand ambassador.