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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 31, 2022

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A late reply to @urquan on assisted suicide

A close family friend has Lou Gehrig's Disease. She cannot drink without choking, she cannot move through space without falling, she cannot manipulate objects. Her life is miserable, and every day that goes by she loses further capacities.

Her options are something as follow:

  • Enlist the help of someone, potentially the state, to kill her within the next few weeks;

  • Tough it out until the line on the graph for "care necessary to life" crosses the line for "care available from friends and family and oupatient caretakers", and allow herself to die of neglect - I'm guessing by suffocation, once her diaphragm stops working - within more or less the same timeline as the previous;

  • Engage with the medical system, which will do its very best to keep her going, until even the best medical technology our public system can buy cannot keep her blood flowing, probably before Christmas this year, and she expires after spending her last few weeks highly medicated in a sterile white prison.

I understand what your Christian ethics say in general, as you have beautifully laid them out for us. But in the specifics, in full contact with reality, if this were you or your mother or your close family friend, what would you say or do? Where would your heart be?

Other options;

  • purchase a gun and a bullet

  • purchase a small tank of helium from Walmart or Amazon

  • try and meet a serial killer online

"Gun and bullet" has a horribly high rate of survival with nasty complications, something like 1-in-6 in practice IIRC. I'm guessing that's a particularly stressful time for someone who's never aimed a gun before to try to figure out how to aim backwards?

I've never looked at anoxia from helium. I'd assume the tricky part is getting a sealed (at least well enough for positive pressure to keep the O2 out) space of the right size, though - too large and/or poorly sealed and you might just end up with brain damage before the tank runs out and you can breathe again; too small and well-sealed and the excess CO2 is going to cause suffering as you go, or even panic (at which point you rip the bag off your head or whatever and we're right back to worrying about survival with brain damage).

I read a post the other day by someone who was trying to get a hitman to kill them and instead found themselves talking to an apologetic FBI sting operation with suicide prevention hotline recommendations. Not sure how common that is, but I'd bet that finding a competent hitman rather than a scammer has poor odds.

These also sound a bit tough for someone who cannot manipulate objects and doesn't want to get a helper convicted of murder. Situations like that are part of why I can see a benefit to legalizing assisted suicide; by the time living is actually worse than death, it's probably too late to do anything unassisted.

I read a post the other day by someone who was trying to get a hitman to kill them and instead found themselves talking to an apologetic FBI sting operation with suicide prevention hotline recommendations. Not sure how common that is, but I'd bet that finding a competent hitman rather than a scammer has poor odds.

To put it mildly. If you do not have very good connections of this kind, if you do not know this kind of shady people who trust you and know even shadier people, forget about it.

Fortunately, we are on the internet, where any interest, no matter how obscure, finds its dedicated fan and support group, and suicide is no exception.

Since the demise of 8chan

https://web.archive.org/web/20190804172611/https://8ch.net/suicide/res/376.html

SS forum is the place to go (it gained enough notoriety to be noticed by normie news, including NYT, it is not some deep secret anymore)

https://sanctioned-suicide.org/threads/suicide-resource-compilation.3/

admins: if this kind of content is too mature for this community, feel free to delete it and ban me

Having to continually upgrade my estimate of how blackpilled you are, gotta say.

Having to continually upgrade my estimate of how blackpilled you are, gotta say.

Blackpilled because there are people researching the best ways of exit in rational scientific way, or because there are people preventing exit by any means necessary with diligence of conscientious guard patrolling the perimeter of camp, checking whether walls are strong and whether barbed wire is not torn, looking for every possible nook and cranny prisoners can use to sneak away?

Remember the SN controversy?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/technology/amazon-suicide-poison-preservative.html

This Dr. Death's super mega deadly connoction NYT wants to ban (for ordinary normies OFC) and fears so much it refuses to name it, is sodium nitrite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_nitrite

Essential medicine and ordinary household chemical, used for preservation of food.

Not any more, if NYT get its wish. Who are you to think about making your homemade ham, sausage, bacon and smoked meat? Go to supermarket like everyone else, consume MegaFoodCorp products like everyone else. If it saves only one life, it is worth it.

Wait when people discover how easily you can use New York Times for suicide...

Personally I would just try to buy fentanyl.

Or plant opium poppies when you get the diagnosis.