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Ive been around the internet enough to know that engaging with the specifics of a Gish Gallop is a fool's game. That's why I didn't.
No matter how much you try to hedge and caveat you are still trying to argue that knowledge of group differences is more valuable and informative than fine-grained information about individuals, and that is a premise that I reject.
I am literally and explicitly arguing the opposite, and you’re just obstinately insisting otherwise, despite (again) not actually demonstrating that you’ve made an attempt to understand the specific arguments I’ve made and why.
You asked if racial discrimination was a priori a bad thing. I responded that from a Western/Culturally Christian perspective, yes it is a bad thing and provided a rationale. Specifically that the emphasis on individual merit is a key component of what sets "the West" apart, and that racial discrimination goes against that. You responded by pointing out that judging people individually is often difficult/inconvenient and urging me to cosider the possible benefits of embracing racial discrimination but none of that has anything to do with why I maintain that it is a priori a bad thing.
And when he provided numerous uncontroversial examples of other situations in which a person makes assumptions based on observable traits, you shamelessly ducked having to explain why those are different.
Guessing that an elderly person is likely to be weaker than a young person, or that a bearded man in a keffiyeh might not want any bacon, is just common sense. But you apparently don't have an arrow in your quiver that explains why some assumptions "go against individual merit" while others don't, so instead you just muttered something about not being gish galloped even though that's blatantly not what was happening.
Big fat L.
"Uncontroversial" my ass
This adds nothing. Make an actual point, don't just sputter angrily.
He's trying to "build consensus" by claiming that a position is uncontroversial when it is very clearly not
Comments like this but you're giving him a pass because he's on your side.
Wait, are you having this big dumb embarrassing meltdown because you genuinely think positions like "the elderly are typically feebler than the young" are controversial, or did you just suffer a critical failure of reading comprehension at some point and now you mistakenly think we meant that racial stereotypes are uncontroversial?
You are not in any way improving the discourse.
The purpose of this forum is not to see how deeply you can stick a knife in, it is not to wittily express how stupid you think someone is, it is not to "score wins" by poking as hard as you think you can get away with because you think someone is a dum-dum or wrong and bad and you really want to make sure they know you think this. This is not a place where the goal is to flex and demonstrate your verbal agility in the field of battle. (Your ideas are supposed to do the fighting, not your sizzling zingers.) If that is what you believe and that's what you want to do, you should not be here.
In your short time here, you've already been warned a couple of times, and looking at your post history, it's full of snideness, sarcasm, and low effort dunk shots that I'm sure you think "really told him."
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tldr: this isn't Twitter, shape up.
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