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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 5, 2022

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Agreed with your last sentence. Idk, names change over centuries. Pretty sure most South Koreans in US would still be having Korean names but be American in every other way.

It's less a I am identifying with my cultural group thing and more a fuck it, I was born in America, whatever name I got is an American name now as well.

Again, not saying you are wrong, just saying you could probably find better metrics for level of assimilation than first name preference.

Better metrics likely do exist, would you expect Mohamed to be #19 for French boys in 2019?

Koreans I'd expect to integrate and assimilate better regardless of name, than the ancestral groups currently causing problems in Europe. I'd attribute this to Koreans experience with civilization, while many recent immigrants to Europe do not originate from groups with similar experience.

The popularity of "Mohammed" is not really a particularly good metric at all, since it's far and away more popular a name in Muslim communities than any single given name is in non-Muslim communities. Also, I've occasionally seen statistics like this treat all variations of "Mohammed" (Mohamed, Mahmud etc) as the same name but not do the same for, for instance, John, Jon, Ian, Johann, Jan, Jean, Sean, Ivan and Juan.

would you expect Mohamed to be #19 for French boys in 2019?

I mean by 19th ranked name for all you know you are on the name used by 1% or 0.1%. That honestly doesn't sound so bad.

Assuming the most extreme case of all names being equally popular, Mohammad would be the name of 5.2% of men. Still a vast minority.

Also all the refugees Europe took.

The upper classes irrespective of cultural background tend to integrate better. Maybe just stop taking in poor people.

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