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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 5, 2022

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I think the decline in fertility below 2.1 (replacement rate) can be directly linked to modern day feminism and women's rights. However, what I have noticed is that rich female friendly nations do far better in terms of birth rate than rich conservative strict gender role societies.

For example - France has a fertility rate around 1.8. 1.7 for the US. Germany 1.4.

In the east with more strict gender norms the rich societies however have far more abysmal fertility rates - Japan 1.3, South Korea 0.8, Taiwan 1.1, Singapore 1.2.

Now one may argue that the decline in fertility rate is not due to feminism and women's emancipation but rather due to improvements in wealth of society. However, a counterpoint to this is that faster modernizing societies; in terms of becoming more feminist, tend to have declining fertility rates even when not wealthy nations.

Example- Nepal - 1.8, India - 2.0-2.1.

Based on the above data I would posit that feminist societies result in fertility rates declining to below replacement rates, but once a country is wealthy it is far worse for the population to remain conservative than for it to be a feminist nation due to the fact that conservative rich nations do far worse on population growth than feminist nations.

Conclusion - modern feminism doomed/ saved human civilization to constant steady population decline and that's the best case scenario for population demographics from all the options currently available.

Thoughts?

How much of this is feminism vs other aspects of the western disease? Feminism is but one aspect, along with obesity, anomie and atomization, video games, wage, stagnation, and general sedentary behavior.

I wouldn't be surprised if the problem is that Westerners are fat and lazy which is a turn-off for both western men and women.

but Japanese and South Koreans are fit still they do not reproduce more. They have worse wage stagnation in Japan.

Atomization makes sense to a degree.

China's fertility rate is also dropping and they're far less friendly to Western ideas than those other two East Asian states.

Maybe the "Western disease" is just industrialization.

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