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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 5, 2022

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Interesting that the LGB part of things doesn't seem to have much to do with the drag aspect -- yes drag is a gay subculture, but in today's context it seems to be mostly about increasing 'T' positivity. "Grooming kids to accept trans people as potential sexual partners" is not the farthest thing from "increasing trans-positivity".

If LGB positivity is part of the goal, why aren't story hours with ordinary gay people? (as such)

I'm not personally hung up on the 'groomer' label, but can see where people are coming from with it; I also don't think 'trans-positivity' is a very positive thing for kids to be learning.

Look, my specific point is about the phrasing "the truth itself", the confident claim that grooming is the motivation. Can one make such a confident claim here, without further evidence?

Of course one can also take the stance that it doesn't matter if it completely matches the usual meaning as long as it is "something like it", but one should then not be surprised when others are similarly cavalier with meanings of words like "Nazi" or "racist", for instance.

Wait, are you claiming the cavalier usage of "groomer", came before the cavaliet usage of "Nazi" and "racist"?

No, why? These things still tend to work in mutually feeding cycles, no matter how the cycle starts. It's not like "groomer" is the first term of abuse invented by the right against the left either, including in implying that leftists are pedophiles.

Because it makes no sense to tell people to not be surprised by something that had already happened, and which cannot be undone by not saying "groomer".

The only way making a point about a cycle of abuse would make sense, is if you waited for the next term used too cavalierly.

My point is that "increased LGBTQ+ positivity" is in itself a form of grooming -- and potentially at least as harmful to the child in question as straightforward child sexual abuse.

one should then not be surprised when others are similarly cavalier with meanings of words like "Nazi" or "racist", for instance.

It's hardly a surprise at this point; my Prime Minister did as much this past winter. It seems unlikely that anything I might do will stop these people calling me a Nazi, so... I just don't care anymore, I guess?

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