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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 30, 2025

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I don’t disagree with this and that the just so undermines credibility of the point. On the other hand, I do think Bezos deserves to be criticized whoever he marries. He started an affair and broke up two marriages with children.

I think part of the issue is that modernity has removed the vocabulary to cricicize the object level misbehavior so they displace their ‘something is wrong’ to a secondary element

Or it’s the other way around, and christianity arose as the spiritual justification for this intrasexual bitching, which no doubt predates it.

No, what @iprayiam3 is talking about predates Christianity by atleast a thousand years its the main driver of conflict in half the great greek tragedies as well as the philosophies of Plato and Aristotle.

Yeah that’s what I’m saying, intrasexual competition, gossip, envy and jealousy have always fueled human conflict. Religions then built on and justified that primal pettyness, look at the behaviour of the gods in greek mythology. Christianity is particularly attuned to women’s petty intrasexual concerns, with its emphasis on female promiscuity.

If being on the motte should teach any one anything, it’s that men often care about female promiscuity as much as if not more than women do.

no we just have a lot of women and christians.

Clearly on TheMotte, it’s the men who are writing most of the posts about the ills of promiscuity. (I have specific names in mind.)

That attitude may ultimately stem from their Christianity. But there are also a lot of atheist manosphere types who get REALLY upset about female promiscuity. You can’t dismiss it as a purely female concern.

OP’s a woman, so from this single garden-variety independent sample this subject is 100% female-originated.

But there are also a lot of atheist manosphere types who get REALLY upset about female promiscuity.

They do, but I would postulate that they’re more upset that the women aren’t being promiscuous with them, than with the concept.

OP’s a woman

Yes but this is a topic that comes up with some frequency and there are certain male posters who have strong opinions on it as well.

they’re more upset that the women aren’t being promiscuous with them

Yes but the point is that they care about it at all, regardless of their motivations. (The motivations are at least somewhat complex and multilayered. Yes at the end of the day it’s really about “all the women should belong to me” but I think there’s at least some genuine pro-social concern mixed in as well.)