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Another day, another humiliation for Britain: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/15/24000-afghans-offered-asylum-mod-data-breach-revealed/

Britain has offered asylum secretly to nearly 24,000 Afghan soldiers and their families caught up in the most serious data breach in history, it can be revealed.

The leak, which can be reported following the lifting of a superinjunction, led the Government to earmark £7 billion to relocate Afghan refugees to the UK over five years, threatening to open up a new black hole in the nation’s finances.

The revelation is set to overshadow Rachel Reeves’s Mansion House speech on Tuesday night, at a time when the Chancellor is already considering raising taxes in the autumn to balance the books.

It is not known whether the huge cost to the taxpayer of resettling the Afghans has been factored into the Government’s budget or whether taxes might have been raised to pay for it, as the secrecy around the data breach has prevented proper scrutiny.

The breach occurred in February 2022, when a Royal Marine sent an email to a group of Afghans and accidentally included a spreadsheet containing the identities of 25,000 Afghans who were applying for asylum – soldiers who had worked with the British Army and their family members.

If I was facing a fiscal emergency, I would simply not spend money on bringing tens of thousands more Afghans into the country.

Some of those who will now come to Britain had asylum applications rejected previously, with officials forced into a reversal.

This is somewhat confusing, I conclude that huge amounts of money was already being spent on asylum speakers or that the whole thing is a giant shambles with money being shuffled around randomly:

It is understood that the direct costs of the leak to date have been £400 million and that £850 million has been set aside to complete the resettlement of Afghans affected by the data breach. It is not believed that this includes any potential compensation costs.

The Government originally set aside £7 billion, MoD lawyers told the High Court, but ministers expect to save around £1.2 billion after closing all Afghan asylum schemes this month. The scheme set up as a result of the leak – the Afghanistan Response Route – will be closed on Tuesday.

Whatever the real cost, Afghan refugees are notoriously rapey, plus the soldiers we were fighting alongside with were notorious for 'green on blue' attacks, boy rape, drug-addiction and corruption. That's why they folded so quickly to the Taliban. The opportunity cost to British taxpayers (with sewage bubbling up in hospitals, streets full of uncollected garbage, rampant petty theft) is considerable. Huge amounts have already been spent on Afghans and it's not clear that this investment yields returns or is even spent on the deserving.

It emerged in May that the estimated cost of hotels and other accommodation for asylum seekers had risen from £4.5 billion between 2019 and 2029 to £15.3 billion. It is not known whether any of the rise in cost can be partly explained by the data breach.

You can just turn back the boats, copy Australia. Put up posters saying 'you will NOT be resettled in Britain if you arrive by boat.' Order the navy to turn them back. Ignore the French if they complain. You can ignore international law if you don't like it, or make up some creative interpretation. You can ignore the ECHR, they're not a real court. Just unsubscribe from the ECHR.

I've been trying to work out what the position of the average Uniparty politician is regarding the small boats. Clearly they don't want to stop the boats. The actions you've outlined have been proven to work in other countries. At the same time, they're not exactly keen on having tens of thousands of young men who are, at best, drains on the welfare state and, at worse, serious criminals, coming to the country. Especially with the papers carefully documenting every landing.

The conclusion I've come to is that they want the boats to stop, but they don't want to stop the boats. The more deluded ones think there is some form of action (the Rwanda scheme, 'smashing the gangs') that can stop the boats coming without actually turning away or deporting any of them. The more clear-headed I think just don't think that the actions needed to stop the boats, and the fight with the blob that it would require, are worth it. So they muddle along and hope the problem will solve itself, or that France will generously decide that it would rather keep all these vibrant young men.

They're invertebrates ping-ponging around inside this closed space of legal 'rules', penned in by judicial review and the ECHR. They don't realise that they have the power and the duty to write and rewrite the rules as necessary to achieve outcomes. They're too wedded to the 'rule of law' now, they don't realise that it's truly just a social construct.

The more clear-headed I think just don't think that the actions needed to stop the boats, and the fight with the blob that it would require, are worth it.

This requires indigenous young men to go out and shoot the people on the boats. They'll stop coming once they know it's a death sentence.

Europe isn't capable of doing that; its old men, old women, and (to an extent) its young women are all in agreement that indigenous young men should be replaced for [whatever reason]. They'll do anything to avoid raising their station in life because they believe they'll revolt as soon as it does, which is not an unreasonable thing to fear given that's when regime change generally happens.

(Well, Eastern Europe still can, but Eastern Europe is poor enough that the migrants won't stay in the country anyway, so it realistically still falls to the Western Europeans to start stacking bodies if they don't want to be invaded.)

At the same time, they're not exactly keen on having tens of thousands of young men who are, at best, drains on the welfare state and, at worse, serious criminals, coming to the country. Especially with the papers carefully documenting every landing.

What's the evidence for this?

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