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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 14, 2025

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The sons of those who beat a thoroughfare for freedom across the wilderness are absolutely those who have a place in politics. It is the bitter and resentful foreigners, the unnaturalized and unassimilable ethnics, and anyone who considers himself an American and something else besides who have no place here, in politics or otherwise.

After all, you yourself don't even call your friends American. You call them Asian and Hispanic. Hyphenated, at best, and therefore not American, and I won't let you give away my inheritance that my forefathers struggled for and bequeathed to me. Not to Asians, not to Hispanics, not to foreigners, not to traitors and backstabbers, either.

The sons of those who beat a thoroughfare for freedom across the wilderness are absolutely those who have a place in politics.

The right accurately resists the progressive tendency to transmit blame through the generations, but transmitting credit is no less ridiculous.

It is the bitter and resentful foreigners, the unnaturalized and unassimilable ethnics, and anyone who considers himself an American and something else besides who have no place here, in politics or otherwise.

Accusing Americans of Asian descent of being bitter and resentful foreigners is a little strange considering that they are way better off in just about every dimension compared to white Americans.

It's not credit I care about, it's ownership. These people are not American, will never become American, and ought not be citizens nor voters.

As for Asians, if not even material success can prevent them from opportunistic anti-american, anti-white attitudes, then what hope do we have for the less successful races?

I'll give the east and southeast Asians credit where due: I vastly prefer them to Africans, Indians, and Mestizos of various countries. One reason is they have given their children English names like Emily or Grant or Michelle or Christopher. Another is their relative lack of criminality.

I still don't want them outnumbering Americans in America.

Be polite, please.

Edit: now I see the other drama going on. To be clear, your opinion is perfectly defensible. Presenting it in a mocking, inflammatory way is the only problem.

The pioneers of yesteryear most likely would have turned out just like Harold, had they lived in a Schlaraffenland where you get paid for existing and sugar comes in through every pore.

That said, I absolutely understand the nostalgic mewling. Wanting to preserve and contribute to the legacy of one's forbears, in their and one's own country, seems perfectly natural and like a desire that society ought to promote, if not for aesthetics then in its own good interest. And the failure of western societies to square this outlook with immigration is, IMO, a pretty severe one. Widespread national self-hatred leading to and giving space to the exaggerated self-confidence of immigrant ethnicities is a very fine recipe for ethnic tension even in a sometimes-purportedly post-ethnic world. It's hard not to see immigrants as invaders and parasites when your personal ancestors put a lot of work into making a place for themselves, and you yourself put a lot of work into maintaining it, but in comes a foreigner whose allies overty and epxlicitly hate you, and who retains his distinct and foreign culture, who send money back home, and who inhabits not the remnants of the old localized and intergenerational country that you yourself might see yourself in, but its modern, atomized, globalized replacement.

It's not like this is uniquely American.

My German ancestors immigrated to the village I still live in five generations ago, having come from and brought in wives from places as far away as...another village a few hours' walk way. To them, it was perfectly natural that you stay in one place, or very close to it. You maintain your social connections without even thinking about it. You constantly exert yourself to improve the commons. You behave well and work hard and accept that if you deviate from that, you will be shamed into the ground. And so they behaved and worked, for generations, and went out of their way to keep the commons ing ood shape, and here I am in a world of lies and distractions and addictions aplenty, sticking to the straight and narrow, do-the-hard-work-and-obey-the-rules, neither living beyond my means nor resting on welfare, paying taxes on taxes, trying my best to help rather than harm the rotting edifice of "the commons", in no small part because that's what generations before me did and I'll be damned if I'm the one to break with that.

And in come M'beke and Muhammed, rightfully convinced that us Germans are just sheep that need to be fleeced because what else are we, with our own young women telling them that they have a right to be here and everyone has a right to a high standard of living and nobody has a duty to work and white people are evil and then old Germans will remind them that no, actually, it's Germans who are uniquely evil, and M'beke and Muhammed just laugh fly their own flags and loudly blast gangsta rap and muslim music and swagger through the streets while drab little Germans dodge them on their way to work or to, sheepishly rather than triumphantly, to pick up gibs alongside these immigrants. They're parasites and proud of it. They might learn to speak German, but will do so in an ostentatiously ridiculous accent that marks them as separate.

Meanwhile, the other M'beke and Muhammed actually get jobs and become economically productive members of society...but still remain M'beke and Muhammed rather than become Martin and Matthias, and raise their children as lilttle M'beke and Mohammed, because they see the insanity of German ethnic self-hatred, the decrepitude of our culture, and sensibly stick to what they know. They barely speak enough German to make themselves understood. They're here for as long as the money is good, but even then they associate with their co-ethnics and can we rely on them to stick with us whent he going gets tough?

And then of course there's Nguyen and Pajeet, who come into the country, work their asses off, shame us with their immense productivity and modest standard of living, speak German with barely an accent, bring in their whole family form abroad who all do the same. These are the guys we want, right? Not so sure about that, really. If they can move around half the world and seamlessly make a good life for themselves here...then they can probably repeat that trick once this country goes to shit.

Immigration is touchy. The ideal immigrant comes here not because his home country is a shithole, or because life here is easy and you get paid for showing up, or because his co-ethnics invited him to join their enclave, but because he wants to be German. But who would? Germany hates Germans. Germans hate Germans. Germans teach everyone to hate them. And as with all these tendencies towards national suicide, I suppose it's rather similar in America.

The ideal immigrant comes here not because his home country is a shithole, or because life here is easy and you get paid for showing up, or because his co-ethnics invited him to join their enclave, but because he wants to be German.

But of course, they all already want to be German. They obviously desire your material wealth and geopolitical power, and while they don't want to adopt your pro-social habits per se, they certainly enjoy the more immaterial fruits of your labor: your clean streets, your trusting and friendly people, your effective governance. They openly desire your women's gracile features and quietly envy your men's tall stature.

However, if HBD is to be believed, they can never be Germans, nor can their descendants be Germans; at least, not any recognizable descendants. For the foreseeable future, the only way that they may truly secure the prosperity they desire at scale is to intermarry with your people en masse and encourage their half-breed offspring to do the same. In doing this, they must internally accept the intrinsic inferiority of their type and witness the subsumption of their own clan and lineage into a wholly alien and unrecognizable gestalt.

... to be clear, I derive no pleasure from these words; I am one of the aforementioned half-breeds myself. I've been wanting to do a big top-level post detailing my outlook on these matters for a while, and writing this comment has given me the drive to actually write out the whole thing, so be on the lookout for that, i guess.

Looking forward to it!

I have some doubts about the modal immigrant's desire to become German. Maybe you're right on some psychological level, but that's pretty intangible. Immigrants' ostentatious insistence on their own separation from the natives, on the other hand, is highly visible. And if in doubt, I'll take the more obvious interpretation: They don't want to be German, they just want to benefit off of Germany.

Ping me when you get around to writing that post.

For the foreseeable future, the only way that they may truly secure the prosperity they desire at scale is to intermarry with your people en masse and encourage their half-breed offspring to do the same. In doing this, they must internally accept the intrinsic inferiority of their type and witness the subsumption of their own clan and lineage into a wholly alien and unrecognizable gestalt.

The Redemption of... lamb?

Hispanics use SNAP at a far higher rate than whites and are also more obese and less educated than whites. I don't get what the point of your anecdote is.

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