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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 12, 2022

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Obviously "the airport elon's jet most recently landed at, which is available to anyone at (i think) https://www.adsbexchange.com" and "the live location of xae12" are different

I literally cannot fathom the relentless, unceasing anxiety I would suffer if my child's whereabouts were inexplicably public knowledge.

If someone knows you personally, it basically is? They're, usually, either at your house (which you can usually get from a name), at school/school-associated location (the school is often directly derivable from house location, and generally not private) - and at predictable times!

This was 2rafa's point earlier, the knowledge necessary to harm someone is universally available and fairly easy to use. That people aren't usually harmed is due to people not desiring to, and law and society imposing punitive costs on those who try to.

public knowledge

If someone knows you personally, it basically is?

These are literal, exact opposites. Is everyone's brains so thoroughly melted by the last decade of social media that all concept of not being a public facing person 24/7 been completely forgotten?

Something being knowable if you tell someone is not the same thing as being public knowledge. Even your example of, hey, some people know your home address, so that's basically public knowledge, right? No. That's called doxing.

Just... what even?

When you said "public knowledge", did you mean "public knowledge that a large number of people were interested in"?

My point was that if someone's motivated enough to go to the IRL location of your children, they're probably motivated enough to look in voter registration databases, or do the 5 hours of research necessary to dox 90% of people who use the internet. The motivation is the problem, not the publicness of the information. Doxxing is bad, but unless you put a lot of effort into hiding it, it's really easy to dox people. (I don't know precisely how one does it, but have seen it happen many times).

My point was that if someone's motivated enough to go to the IRL location of your children, they're probably motivated enough to look in voter registration databases, or do the 5 hours of research necessary to dox 90% of people who use the internet. The motivation is the problem, not the publicness of the information. Doxxing is bad, but unless you put a lot of effort into hiding it, it's really easy to dox people. (I don't know precisely how one does it, but have seen it happen many times).

Your point is meaningless, most people and governments have shit opsec and corporations will actively sell your info out for penies, compilation of personal info has a quality all of its own and that is in itself unacceptable when it happens to you. Doxing is one of those "life ruination" strats that's off limit/over the pale you just don't do it. And yeah kiwifarms has its uses but I don't see them as anything more then the lowest of the low, its only funny when it happens to some one you hate.

As much as I enjoyed kiwifarms, and as much as I agree with your point in general, I think it and sites like it put paid to that idea. There are a lot of people out there who apparently can't be fucked ruining someone's life unless all the hard work has already been done for them - but if it is, their motivation is through the roof.

If someone's motivated enough, they will not be stopped by your home security - does that mean you leave your door unlocked?

I'm not saying you should put up a live location feed of your kid, just that nothing would happen if you did, unless there was some other reason for people to be interested.