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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 19, 2022

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To be clear, it was pretty clear early on that the laptop was genuine. Glenn Greenwald had a good post on that.

I meant the fact the whole “we are doing game plan where there is a hack and dump of Hunter Biden before the story broke” is pretty damning.

To be clear, it was pretty clear early on that the laptop was genuine. Glenn Greenwald had a good post on that.

Now, other people in this thread have presented good evidence suggesting the laptop was indeed genuine, but after he helped launder the Russian hacked emails through Wikileaks and denied any Russian connection, I'm supposed to take Glenn Greenwald said it wasn't the Russians as evidence that it wasn't the Russians? Is this a troll? I'm reminded of the old joke about how if the CIA tells you the sky is blue, you should probably go outside and look, get then get an eye test and look again just to be sure.

EDIT: Yes, I know Glenn Greenwald and Julian Assange are different people. One of the things he's known for is being one of the most mainstream vocal deniers of the Wikileaks-Russia connection.

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In addition to the other comments, would Greenwald not be a good arbiter of what Russian shenanigans look like, even discounting the inaccuracy of "Greenwald laundered the emails"?

Besides you confusing Greenwald with Assange, those weren't Russian emails. Those were DNC emails, and those were genuine too. You may be upset about how they were acquired, but the content of the emails was all true, and so was the content of the laptop. So, in both cases, there was true information revealed, and in both cases US government tried to hide it for partisan political reasons, clearly throwing all the weight of the federal government to the side of one party. Which in a normally functioning state would be a scandal, but...

Glenn Greenwald didn’t help launder emails through Wikileaks. That was Julian Assange. Greenwald has done extensive investigative journalism regarding Snowden and Lula. He is as close of an expert as there is in journalistic methods of authenticating data. He laid out all the ways the Biden laptop was authenticated shortly after it came to light.

Also, it isn’t crystal clear that Russians were behind Wikileaks. Sure, that is what DoJ claims. But they’ve never had to fight that in an adversarial situation. The one time they did have the chance, the dropped the charges claiming Russia would get valuable intel. Which maybe but also could be because their actual case was weak.

It's kind of amazingly rich to do this whole "attack the messenger" routine on Greenwald, while 100% of the doubt cast on the laptop story came from bald lying (without even an attempt at faking evidence!) by IC spooks. This is a scenario where the CIA told us the sky was green, Greenwald wrote an article of evidence it was blue, and you're throwing skepticism at Greenwald.