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> make whatever mouth sounds get you to leave them alone
> zero pride in work
> zero interest in getting something done in a final in production sense
If your and @WhiningCoil's characterizations of H1Bs are accurate, that makes me think H1Bs are low-key based in being Punch Clock Villains (or should it be Heroes?)—in contrast to Westerners (especially Americans), who will "go beyond the extra mile" or whatever in grinding hard for some self-actualization and to make someone else rich. Although granted, they'd not sound like great coworkers.
Generating billable hours would be a refreshing contrast to many a young Westerner in law/consulting/accounting/etc., who might work 60 hours in a given week but then shave it down to 40 (lest a partner or project/relationship manager tut-tut that he or she had to perform the Emotional Labor of shaving hours off the bill [or present the bill as is]). However, then said young Westerners in law/consulting/accounting/etc. will then fret as they might not have enough "utilization" for a given year due to their lack of billable hours during downtime between projects.
Chad H1B Billable Hour-Generator vs. Virgin Western Billable Hour-Shaver.
Nothing you've said is wrong, it just reflects a different value prioritization and worldview.
When people use the phrase "work to make someone else richer", I very much enjoy YesChad.jpeg'ing that hard. I believe in a life of service. I want to do things in life that make other people better off. In a more economic yet abstract sense, I want to create more value and wealth than I consume.
I can hear @Sloot laughing as he pictures me as a doe-eyed whippersnapper who actually feels good about making the Boss more money. Well, maybe? What if the boss is smarter than me and can better allocate the resources of the company? What if I know the boss pretty well and also think he or she has a good set of moral principles as well?
One of the pitfalls of modern individualism is the idea that if you're "serving" or "working for" anyone else in a hierarchical arrangement, you're automatically being exploited. I can tell you for a fact that there are still thousands of Marines who loved the hell out of serving under General Mattis. Elon Musk's reality distortion field is so strong that he has ex employees on record stating he was pretty much abusive - and they were proud to take it! These are probably bad examples to bring up to defend my case, but my point remains.
Chad H1B Billable Hour-Generation, with his excellent ability to game the system will enjoy skating ahead while everyone else around him - fuck 'em - is being a naieve little wagecuck. But Chad H1B is also importing the, ahem, cultural peculiarities that don't look so good for the West when extrapolated across all of society (the UK and Canada would like to have a word in the alley -- which is where they spend most of their nights now).
Free riding is a problem and the answer isn't to applaud it.
I wasn’t picturing you at all as I was writing my comment reply, as your comment that I was responding to didn’t discuss your own work experiences, nor did I have a prior mental image on this front.
I understand you’re speaking generally and not necessarily attributing this to me, but I wouldn’t say so (that working under hierarchal arrangement = must be exploited). If anything, I’d disagree with the sentiment.
Nor should pathological altruism—to continuously cooperate in the face of defection—be applauded. All else equal, I loathe freeriders (to say the least).
Whether this is a corporate allegory for immigration/wealth transfers or vice versa (or both) can remain to be seen. As to immigration in general (illegal or legal, I’m somewhat indifferent to The H1B Question), an obvious solution could be to limit the arrival of welfare-state freeriders, and/or those likely to have children who are welfare-state freeriders. Or to domestically, limit (or at least not subsidize) the proliferation of population segments likely to be such freeriders.
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