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Why does advice work so poorly?

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Cialdini's Influence is about why people don't listen to advice. Hickman on Twitter wrote:

Many times, "advice-giving" has little to do with advice, and more to do with posing thought experiments that expose weakness in men.

The guys with energy, who got "the juice" say OK, you're right, go try it. The low-energy types just get madder than hell, seethe over the advice, say it's "bad advice" but can't say why -- and the guys who don't need the advice are perfectly secure, well-aware they don't need it.

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