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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 16, 2023

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"Ukraine will have to take loads of third world refugees by EU/NATO" is one of the most ridiculous predictions of this conflict. How many third world refugees, exactly, are there in Romania/Bulgaria/Croatia - the closest equivalents as the newest EU countries? What even is the mechanism how this is supposed to happen? There are currently no ways how EU could force an EU member state to take in refugees from (presumably) other member states, and all efforts to create one have been scuppered.

Of course, if the EU wanted a "soft" mechanism to considerably discourage asylum-seeking in general, a way to do it would be stating "sure, you can come, but you would have to settle in war-torn Ukraine"...

And the complaining about "Poles for not taking their 'share' of refugees" lost any standing after taking millions of Ukrainians, with over 100 000 daily crossings (IIRC) at beginning of the war.

The Hungarians and the Poles didn't feel like footing the bill for building camps or detainment centres,

And more importantly were not enthusiastic about recreating Swedish or French or German migration problems. War refugees from Ukraine were welcomed, economical migrants from Somalia were not.

and I'm still of the belief that Orbán and PiS' scaremongering about migrants is just that: scaremongering

Why? The crime data alone seems to show they, at the very least, have a point. And that's without going into values based criticisms like being opposed to homogenization.

The only scenario where there will be, post war, large immigration into Ukraine, would be scenario where war drags for long time with massive casualties (as Anatoly Karlin predicts with glee) and Ukraine receives afterwards huge (and this means huge, multi-trillion) reconstruction aid (from where?) and this boon is actually used as intended for reconstruction of Ukraine.

In this case, Ukraine will need far more work force.

Historical note: after WWI, France was the "le premier pays d’immigration au monde", with ongoing active recruitment of hundreds of thousands of workers from abroad.

If you see this scenario as plausible, you have reason to be afraid.

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