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>Checks post history: /r/antiwork. Every fucking time. And lots showing up from /r/subredditdrama, /r/hobbydrama, /r/leopardsatemyface, /r/socialistprogrammers, /r/sneerclub, /r/onguardforthee, /r/LateStageCapitalism, etc. Plus all the usual names: callmejay, lightweavernaamah, evinceo. And everyone disagreeing with them getting downvoted, as if there's some kind of brigade...
It's almost like the goal of all these complaints is to enable the leftist colonization and domination of a space they don't control, to censor... well, let's just quote them: "Those who engage in bad faith with intent of disseminating a worldview deemed unfit for civilized society"
On a related note, has anyone noticed how enforcement of the "no culture war" rule completely vanished from SSC so that people from those subs with names like "marx789" can come in and wage it without opposition?
BTW, what's that talk about /u/895158 going on a podcast and getting canceled? First I've heard of it.
And is the ssc discord a leftist echo chamber? Like the poster said, I kinda figured because of the general discord userbase, but still sad if true. They must have to do a lot of self-gaslighting.
I was a mod for a sub about a somewhat controversial figure for years. This is how it works.
It's an incredibly weird phenomenon, because I can't see what's in it for them, but you get these people cycling in and out and spreading negativity into every thread and demand censoring of this or that voice or topic. There'd be constant threads about The Rising Number of People Talking About X Thing The Mods Really Need To Clamp Down On.
It's almost like it's a matter of principle for them to not let People Being Wrong On The Internet have their own space. And they strongly intersected with sneerclub-style subs that hated said controversial figure.
The goal was basically too harangue and annoy the mods enough to either do their bidding or to mire the sub in so much negativity that their point of view predominates. This seemed to exhaust normal people who just liked the content, meanwhile they seemed to feed on it.
I think, at one point, a mod tallied the comments and found that one particular leftist grudge-poster was making like 2% of the comments.
I wonder a lot if I should have just had a purge tbh. Cause I got exhausted enough to quit and I don't think they did.
IMO, you probably ought to have just purged. Arguing for censorship of others should be an instaban, justified on the irony alone.
Oh, there was a good argument for it. And it was made by other mods.
In hindsight I really do wonder if I was just being pretentious about "principles" and missing the forest for the trees.
Seeing how other "jannies" have acted with no consequences since then has made me feel even more silly.
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