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I've had worse lab partners. I've probably been as bad as a lab partner.
Truly there is no hope for humanity.
I was mostly reminded of a couple of forced university project partners whose defining features that they were both clueless and utterly useless so I had to do both the thinking and all the work and writing as well.
In actuality, I think I was a pretty decent lab partner. I'm not one for letting the squad down haha. But I can still relate to the impulse to say fuck it and stay up late playing video games instead.
Writing the lab report at 3 am the night before the deadline is a time honored tradition.
Indian med school had some special indignities, we had to hand draw so many goddamn diagrams, and write our logbooks and field records by hand too. Like, c'mon..
You were just getting ahead on the Butlerian jihad.
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Aren't those considered crimes against humanity nowadays?
I've never once written a single engineering or lab logbook entry nor do I have any intention of ever doing so.
They should be! I'll have to ask my younger brother to confirm if that's still the case in med school, but my impression is a sad yes.
I genuinely don't know why the Indian educational system is so allergic to typed text. Sure, there's a slim argument to make that it reduces cheating, but my experience was well before LLMs were even minimally useful. It's not like you can't plagiarize by hand. Our exams are handwritten too, unless it's a computerized MCQ.
Overall, the Indian system is filled with people somewhere between deeply allergic and suspicious to computers. In high school, I had to write programs by hand during my CS exams, no computer in sight except for lab time. If you think tabs vs spaces is bad enough, imagine following handwritten indentation, though the curly brackets helped.
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