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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 3, 2025

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Allow me to express my skepticism that these miserable "incels" whining that they are incapable of attracting a woman without compulsion are in fact the productive members of society suffering for the benefit of others.

Ah, Just Worlding rears its ugly head. Apparently no one could actually be economically productive and still suffer from lackanooky.

Yes, I am in fact horrified to notice some people are unironically endorsing rape and enslavement. Libertarian cavils about welfare notwithstanding.

But not horrified to notice that you are endorsing enslavement, because you refuse to notice.

You're getting increasingly lazy in your argumentation. It's not "Just worlding" to notice the correlation between NEET gooners and incels. Is every single incel a non producer? No, but the flattering cope that by and large they are producers unfairly providing for whores who won't give them nooky doesn't correlate to any honest observation.

As for enslavement, what I notice is that you have reduced the argument to "Failure to enslave and rape women means enslavement of men." I'm not sure that is the position you intended to back into. I'm also not sure it's not. But it's certainly a Kulak-based take. Fascinating.

Let's say you're right and I'm failing to be horrified by enslavement of men because I don't notice it. (I reject your flawed logic, but let's suppose it holds, for the sake of argumen.) Are you claiming that believing women should be enslaved and raped is more moral because you admit noticing that's what you're endorsing?

Is every single incel a non producer? No, but the flattering cope that by and large they are producers unfairly providing for whores who won't give them nooky doesn't correlate to any honest observation.

If not every single incel is a non producer, then this argument applies to at least one incel, and dismissing it with "skepticism" is indeed just-worlding.

As for enslavement, what I notice is that you have reduced the argument to "Failure to enslave and rape women means enslavement of men."

Certainly I have not reduced it to that. You can just not enslave the men. In fact, even if you enslave some women you haven't stopped enslaving the men.

Have you seen the meme that goes:

Man: "The average women is 5'4." Woman: "But I'm 5'8" though."

You're doing the meme.

Certainly I have not reduced it to that. You can just not enslave the men. In fact, even if you enslave some women you haven't stopped enslaving the men.

Great, we both agree you shouldn't enslave people. Why did it take you so long to get there?

Have you seen the meme that goes:

Man: "The average women is 5'4." Woman: "But I'm 5'8" though."

You're doing the meme.

I don't think you have the data to say that the average incel is a NEET gooner. But even if you did, the average doesn't matter; those incels who are not NEET gooners would still have a valid objection.

Great, we both agree you shouldn't enslave people. Why did it take you so long to get there?

Why can't you get there? Or do you think only women are people? The incels have a problem, and some have an awful solution for it. You just want them to suck it up (and actually they don't have a problem anyway because they're just NEET gooners)

I want incels who can't get laid to suck it up (or improve their situation), yes.

Their "awful solution" is that women should be forced to have sex with them or starve. You are arguing that if I reject that awful solution, I am endorsing male slavery. How did you get there?

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