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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 1, 2025

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Bonnie Blue is spreading her legs and makes around 800,000 pounds a month, in the UK of all places. UK Warehouse Worker earns 26,000 annually, UK Chief Information Security Officer earns 130,000-170,000 pounds. She's not even that hot, wtf is going on?

Wait until you find out how much top entertainers in other disciplines make. Actors, models, sports stars... I get when this complaint is applied to how much the ordinary woman can make selling her body versus what an ordinary man would receive in return, but why cite someone who's literally at the top of their game? Yes, the genetic and mental abilities that let her perform in this narrow, highly competitive environment are unfair-- but it's unfair that Shaq is 7'1", too. And I would doubt that the work required to operate at her level is anything less than hard. No, not 3000x as hard as your average UK wagie... but not easy, either.

TBH I don't really disagree with the general thrust of your post... people are entitled to complain about the unfairness of life being shoved in their faces. But it bothers me when people prioritize their complaints by salience instead of by justice. The most unfair way to succeed is to adversely aquire the success of others; the second most unfair way to succeed is to be born into it. Everything else is downstream of criminals and old money, but people still spend a disproportionate amount of time worrying about social media thots.

I think people wouldn't have such a problem with supermodels earning large amounts of money (at least they're pretty hot) or top actors who've demonstrated some skill.

But sleeping with 1000 men in 24 hours is not an exceptional skill. Manipulating people's attention via social media and her own actions so that I know her name despite being on the other side of the world, that's not a worthwhile talent to hone. I think the game that she's top of is innately unworthy. She's not even really good at being a prostitute, she's good at manipulating people's attention. Like Hawk Tuah girl, except deliberate.

But sleeping with 1000 men in 24 hours is not an exceptional skill.

I mean... could you do it? And--

Manipulating people's attention via social media and her own actions so that I know her name despite being on the other side of the world, that's not a worthwhile talent to hone.

Have you been paying any attention to recent politics? Maybe you're speaking in a strictly moral sense, in which case, fine-- but let's be real, both of these things are hard to fake signals of a variety of qualities modern society de-facto promotes. I would be sympathetic to an argument that prostitutes should be less culturally influential as a class, but relative to the incentives society gave her I can't criticize her self-made bonafides. It's like... looking back at history, I strongly disapprove of the morality that drove Alexander the Great, but can't deny that he was truly Great within its constraints. Bonnie Blue isn't the Alexander of prostitutes, but I wouldn't mind comparing her to some lesser conqueror.

If you find it distasteful that a random rich naked woman on the internet got rich by manipulating attention, why do you choose to further give her attention by posting about her? I've never heard of her until this thread.

I am similarly baffled by aella-popularity hate on here. If she's so uninteresting then why do you keep hateposting about her? At least she is more famous for the texts she posts alongside her tits than her tits.

And why should I care that simp whales give her money, anyway. It's not like the alternative would be them donating it to me.

You can't raise the subject of attention-vampires without inadvertently feeding them. Sometimes you need to use the cursed spellbooks of the damned to fight demons and monsters - albeit with caution and care.

Wait until you find out how much top entertainers in other disciplines make. Actors, models, sports stars...

A significant amount of the resentment towards mainstream celebrities who are political opponents is caused by this too I feel. It's explicitly the justification for "shut up and dribble"

Ingraham said she was not interested in the political advice from "someone who gets paid $100 million a year to bounce a ball."

There's an additional wrinkle with Bonnie Blue (and some streamers who basically sell antisocial behavior like Johnny Somali or Logan Paul during his forest-exploring days also fall into the same bucket) because people probably think she represents a particularly corrosive mainstreaming of shamelessness. Is she significantly more attractive than some of the top pornstars over the last fifty years of the category? Not really. Is she more of a degenerate on camera? No. I'm not sure she's even richer than Jenna Jameson or others of that level. What she does exploit is the total breakdown of any cordon around this sort of behavior due to the internet and sites like Onlyfans.

Ingraham said

This isn't really related to anything, but in the process of reading that article I noticed the word "ungrammatical' used--

Ingraham responded to his comments Thursday, calling them "barely intelligible" and "ungrammatical" on her Fox News program The Ingraham Angle.

And I immediately wanted to complain that Ingram was using a coinage that mixes a germanic prefix ("un-") with a latinate root word ("grammar", from old french) and semi-redundant latinate suffixes ("ic" from the latin "icus" and "-al" from the latin "-alis"). I double checked and it turns out that "ungrammatical" really is the common form of the word, but now I'm irrationally pissed that 16th century british people didn't use the etymologically superior "ingrammatic/al". Anyways--

Without refuting your point (which I quite agree with) about why people are angry, I think delving one level deeper into the meta-cause of this anger requires understanding more generally that the entertainers people get the most heated about are the elites of particular subcultures generally excluded from what in victoria 3 terms I'd call america's "primary cultures." There's a particular sort of small landholder for which small-town america is traditionally famous for, and they're well respected and at least putatively represented by the agrobusiness lobby. Similarly, cops and soldiers have generals and astronauts in office; engineers have tech billionaires; schoolteachers have famous college professors; and so forth. When the elites of these accepted groups publicly speak about politics, people often complain about the content, but rarely seem to draw the connection that they're doing functionally the same thing as entertainers. Look at Black Science Guy, for example-- people hate the man fora variety of reasons, but the objects are typically specific to his personality and opinions rather than generally against the nation that he should have a right to speak at all. That's because even his political opponent acknowledge that the subculture for which he is an elite , (scientists in general), has the right to speak about politics in general. But there's far more vitriol when someone who is part of a non-accepted culture opines on politics, and the elite of a non-accepted culture opinion on politics is just a special case of that. People hate prostitutes/gooners, so they don't want to talk politics with Bonnie. Blue. They hate devout evangelicals so they don't want to hear from Tim Tebow. They hate "urban youth," so they don't want to hear Lebron or Johnny Somali. They hate the kind of people who have a collection of rare pepes or watch cheesy game shows (this is a supergroup of various red-tribers; middle-class retirees, unemployed trailer park dwellers, basement dwelling men, stay-at-home moms in rural areas, etc.) so they don't want to hear from Donald Trump.

That, I think, is the implicit complaint underlying, "this dumb entertainer that makes too much money making something stupid shouldn't talk about politics."

but why cite someone who's literally at the top of their game?

I think not all entertainment is created equal for this purpose, forms of entertainment in which talent is more legible usually face less of this kind of criticism. There is a sense in which Shaq has less input than Bonnie Blue for his success, but nobody has any doubt that he's one of the best to ever do it. As you go further down the chain here (actors, adult performers, influencers), the "unfairness" becomes more salient.