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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 1, 2025

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The Wild West is not back, the internet is mostly caged. This is just the anarcho-tyranny of the ruling class.

Remember, to these people Tim Pool is not a "centrist" but the hard right edge of literal Nazis murdering black and brown bodies on the daily. The hyperventilation some years back about "stochastic terrorism" was projection.

How is Tim Pool a centrist? He might have been one back in 2019, but now he’s pro-Trump, pro-Israel, anti-Ukraine and has right-wing guests on his podcast. Even Fox News calls him right-wing.

Can people on the right not be centrist? You just described the center-right. The hard right may or may not be pro Trump, and is DEFINITELY not pro-Israel, and may or may not be pro-Ukraine.

"Has right-wing guests on" - We're still doing this? Having people to the right of you on a show to talk means you can't be a centrist? The nested assumptions here are wonderful. Let's get some data:

1: What percentage of the right half of the political spectrum do you think is centrist, moderate and extreme?

2: What percentage of the left half of the political spectrum do you think is centrist, moderate and extreme?

3: Do these numbers match?

Tim Pool is a fence sitter of the worst variety. He's controlled opposition, his job is to sit there and drive the speed limit and slurp as much normies as possible so they don't embrace much harsher right wing politics.

He might have been one back in 2019

Isn't being pro Israel the epitome of being a centrist. The mainstream of both parties are fanatically pro Israel, the radical base of both parties strongly dislike Israel.

My impression is that the mainstream left is anti-Israel in the States, but I'm hardly an expert here.

The Democrats on Israel are a lot like the Republicans on Israel: there is considerable anti-Israel sentiment in the younger parts of the base, but almost none of that actually filters up to the politicians in office. So you have your token three congressmen who criticize Israel, and all the others move in lockstep support, quietly or loudly. There’s a huge generation split, so boomers and Gen X of both left and right are much more likely to be pro-Israel, or at least moderate in their criticism.

The voters maybe, at least the under-40s, but the blue party is tightly controlled by pro-Israel donors, which is why Kamala quite literally sunk her campaign over the matter. I'm confident she'd have won the election if she'd just given some pro-Palestine statements and made some empty girlboss threats to reign in Israeli behavior (which she could easily backtrack on after being elected. No need to keep campaign promises to anyone who isn't a large donor).

The centrist opinion seems like it should just be that both Israel and Palestine suck. Normies seem like they wouldn't have much of an opinion either way and just default to pro-Israel.

Depends on how you define 'mainstream'. The DNC old guard is very pro Israel. The black democrats and the old school establishment dems are generally pro Israel. It is true that anti-Israel stances are less fringe than in the GOP, however.

In practice, it seems most non-muslim leftish figures are more worried about stoking "antisemitism" than they are anti-Israel.

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