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Man, don't ping me on this. There is nothing I can say that won't get me banned!
I kid, I kid.
Kind of.
It does bring me comfort though that I no longer need to say the things that will get me banned. You know.
I'm not trying to get you into trouble. Quite the opposite, this is strong bayesian evidence that you might be right. Initially I assumed that ICE was going after an immigrant, and the escaping immigrant was indifferent to driving at a cop and got shot in the process, and that seemed unfortunate but basically orderly to me. Then it came out that this was a middle aged white woman, but there were the allegations this was a protestor, which seems more like "bad situation all around."
But if it really is the case that this was an American citizen, driving down the street, trying to turn around, and got shot; and the response is as it has been. Then this is a pretty deep black pill for me. I hope it isn't the case.
Sorry, do you mind elaborating what you're talking about for the peanut gallery?
What is WhiningCoil right about? Are they pro or anti ICE?
I'm not angling for anyone to be banned (why would anyone be banned is another question I have) but this interaction has flown right over my head
My learned friend in Kettlebells Mr. Coil has frequently expressed distress that his ideological enemies want him dead, and would celebrate his and his family's deaths simple because of who he was. Particularly around the Jay Jones controversy.
If this woman turns out not to have been involved in any protest actions, then the broad reaction from the right wing internet is pretty black pilling to me, in that people are celebrating the killing of a white American citizen because she looks like an ideological enemy.
But in this case it would be the "other side" celebrating her death no?
Jay Jones is a Dem, and anyone who's happy this lady was iced (hah) is presumably republican.
And that makes it ok and not a sign of civilizational decline?
Pre-coffee brain, I genuinely just wasn't parsing the thesis here
Absolutely not ok, and yes our civilization is pretty obviously in decline.
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Defenders of Good seem to think she was part of the protest. That would be wild if not.
Not particularly. The information has been spotty from the beginning.
And anyway, protestors have a vested interest in it being bad for protestors to get shot, for obvious reasons. Protestors don't think it is better if she was an "innocent bystander" as they think protestors are definitionally innocent.
The only people interested in the distinction would be those, like me, whose opinions would change if she weren't protesting.
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After big terrorist attacks, many groups claim credit to display impact and efficacy. Similarly, one can easily imagine relevant groups here claiming a martyr or presuming her involvement - it strengthens the besieged narrative too.Actually, the fact she was being recorded by her partner surely blows that idea out of the water
Thanks for pointing that out, very good point.
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