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The videos are a pretty reliable Rorschach test for political orientations.
Bluesky is full of people watching it from all sides and in slow motion saying "yup, officer murdered her! it's plain as day" while X is full of people saying "yup, clearly justified self-defense"
Amazing.
Not that amazing. We have numerous previous incidents demonstrating the American public's total incapacity for achieving consensus over tribally-charged law enforcement incidents. For at least one side, and perhaps both, it is "who, whom" all the way down. This has obviously not gotten better since the Bundy standoff, BLM riots, rittenhouse and Jan 6th. It is pretty obviously not going to get better in the foreseeable future.
Something about this case seems much more cut and dried than the rest of the ones you mention. All of the relevant facts are on camera, from multiple angles. There's very little else you need to know. And there's still hardcore disagreement!
For a counter-point, take this this case from 2019 where a cop kills a parent at a school. There's bodycam video of the arrest and shootout . A very left-wing activist was causing a disturbance at a public school. It's unrelated to left-wing activism, more of a co-parenting dispute. Anyway, a police officer told him he had to leave. He refused so the police officer tried to arrest him. During the struggle the guy pulls a gun out and shoots twice. The officer responds with deadly force, killing him.
Consensus was achieved fairly quickly! In public commentary, there was not much disagreement over who in the wrong. A few left-wing anarchist types thought it was unjust but most normal people seemed to accept the police officer was justified.
Today's case makes it clear to me if this exact situation from 2019 was re-played but it was an ICE agent instead of a police resource officer it would be seen as a murder by every Democrat.
There's an obvious point here where ordinary cops have a real job maintaining public order, whereas nothing about what ICE does requires them to act the way they do other than the appetite for ostentatious thuggery.
Please elaborate. Given the Resistance (TM) to ICE doing its job's increasing boldness and aggression, escalations by ICE officers are predictable, if unfortunate.
They could train their agents better, conduct themselves in a less escalatory fashion, stop attacking protestors, stop trying to intimidate people for mouthing off to them, not wear masks, prioritize targeted operations over open-ended sweeps, not racially profile people or violate the civil rights of citizens by detaining them on no grounds beyond their skin color...
Like, the conceit of Millerites is that illegal immigration constitutes this overwhelming problem that justifies extreme, unconstitutional measures and massive expense, but it just... doesn't. These sweeps are not preventing some dire outcome. They're satisfying the anxieties and appetites of thuggish nativists.
It's predictable in the sense that they're bottom of the barrel recruits with limited training working for an administration that tacitly endorses police brutality.
Can you name a single time this happened?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/ice-apprehension-of-us-citizens-derided-as-kavanaugh-stops
https://ij.org/client/leonardo-garcia-venegas/
You're welcome. (I'm sure you'll have some explanation for how explicit racial profiling isn't racial profiling)
Only one of those is even pretending to be an example. So, in the 700k deportations they did last year, ICE briefly detained a single citizen who was on a work crew with a bunch of other Hispanic guys who totally were illegal?
Did the anti-ICE folks finally accept that "guy who was working security on the weed farm that used illegal minors as child slaves" wasn't the most compelling case?
Seriously, if this is the best you have to offer then ICE is doing a spectacular job.
BTW,
You're welcome.
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