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https://www.newsweek.com/video-appears-to-show-new-ice-shooting-in-minneapolis-11411971
Ice shooting round 2 has kicked off. Numerous rumors already flying around but will be a bit before we have facts I imagine.
EDIT: I've been asked to add some relevant points, I'll say: this comment has links to various angles: https://www.themotte.org/post/3493/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/405295?context=8#context This comment mentions the "Sig misfire" angle that I've seen a bit: https://www.themotte.org/post/3493/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/405451?context=8#context
Walz has activatedthe national guard: https://x.com/MnDPS_DPS/status/2012614253090619619 The NBA postponed the Minnesota/Golden State game tonight.
Minneapolis has clearly become a clusterfuck with no real win condition for the ICE side. Shoot itself is weird since my understanding is
Which is probably enough to escape legal culpability but it's also generated another ugly video and indicative there's not really a good win condition to engaging since if enough people cluster forks around the proverbial power socket there's gonna be shockings
I really don't think these things are true, there is basically no evidence for an accidental discharge and the first gunshot happens very shortly after the first ICE agent pulls his gun and puts it up against the guy's back. By then, the agent that had disarmed him has already turned and is heading away, so there is no active struggle over the gun. I think the evidence points towards the ICE agent shooting him much more than an accidental discharge.
I don't see any evidence the guy reached for his waistband, and it's kind of irrelevant anyway because at that point his gun had already been taken and the ICE agent was walking away with it. And assuming the first discharge wasn't accidental, at that point he had already been shot in the back once.
Oh yes there is, the gun was a Sig P320
We can see the agent has already disarmed him and is holding the gun in his hand and is walking away, he is several feet away by the time the gunshot goes off. In the video, you can see he looks over his left shoulder when the first shot goes off, not down at the gun in his right hand. Even if he wasn't sure where the sound came from, he would've felt the gun discharge. Furthermore, none of the other agents whip around and look at the guy running away with the gun, which would've been the source of the sound. The overwhelming evidence points to the gunshot being from the ICE agent that had pulled out his gun and pointed it at the guy's back immediately before.
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