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Should we discuss Signalgate? No, not the time Republican leaders embarrassed themselves by inviting a journalist into their private top secret (almost-literally) group chat. The new and improved Signalgate in Minnesota.
Many people have noted the coordinated nature of the "I'm-not-touching-you" mostly-non-violent stalking and harassing of ICE in Minnesota. I have also noted that included in their list of targets were just random people in the wrong kind of car.
Some conservative journalists and activists have been able gain access and insight to the method of coordination - a massive Signal chat where people divide into different roles and then join training sessions, read a manual, and then go off into the streets to take part in a coordinated effort to prevent ICE from arresting people and with the long term goal of ICE no longer enforcing bipartisan and popular federal law in the city of Minneapolis.
The roles are as follows:
Here's where it gets speculative: one of the admins on the group has the Username "Flan Southside" which many suspect is Minnesota Lt. Governor Peggy Flannigan. I'm not sure if there is evidence beyond just the name similarity, but one member of the Signal chat seemed to think (after these rumors became wide spread) that "Flan has been exposed." and the Signal member was going to go to Cuba where they had friends. Of course, by this point, the entire chat could be filled with Right Wingers trolling.
Also, it seems like Good and Pretti (seriously, good and pretty? How does this happen?) were members of the Signal chat and were being coordinated by the Signal Dispatch during their fatal encounters with Homeland Security.
At what point is this no longer just people exercising their first amendment rights? At what point is this a conspiracy to undermine the laws of this country resulting in the deaths of two people ?
I saw an interesting take retweeted by Elon from Eric Schwalm, a retired green beret who operated during the GWOT. Reproduced here:
I wonder like /u/Gillitrut mentioned - what legal remedies are available here, under what law would the administration fight this, if this is an actual insurgency? Is this why I hear so much on the right about invoking the insurrection act? What is interesting about that (according to my lawyer and personal constitutional scholar, Grok) is it does not do away with civilian courts, laws or constitutional protections - and if the courts are captured (can’t get judges to sign arrest warrants, can’t get prosecutors to prosecute, can’t get juries to convict, etc etc) then what is beyond that, if the insurrection act even if invoked is still hogtied by judiciary capture?
As an active duty US Navy SEAL with over 300 confirmed kills, I'm extremely disappointed that anyone has even bothered to read that wall of AI slop, let alone believe it has any factual value.
You don’t believe the individual has his claimed credentials or you disagree with his analysis?
I am skeptical of the value of anything that starts with an appeal to authority, but then it's clear that the entity writing the piece does not have the claimed credentials.
Maybe the person posting really is a former Special Forces Warrant Officer, but the words did not originate from a former Special Forces Warrant Officer's brain, they came from a computer without any of that experience and at most a former Special Forces Warrant Officer signed off on them. The post starts off with an appeal to the author's unique experience, but that person with a unique experience did not generate the thoughts, a computer generated the thoughts.
You are saying he does not have his credentials, how did you verify that? Who would you rather read for an assessment on insurgent behavior as it applies to these agitators in MN?
I talk to people at my office over Slack who are obviously using LLMs to generate replies to conversations, but the content of their text could only come from their own unique experience and context otherwise it would be useless. It gets on my nerves, but I recognize they used their “unique experience” to prompt a modern scribe to put that experience to words.
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