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Did you know that 10 people were killed by a (potentially transgender) school shooter in Canada yesterday?
There is hardly anything about this in the American media today. It’s the third-billed story at best, behind Nancy Guthrie kidnapping updates and the FAA closing airspace over El Paso. Right-wing influencers have mentioned it, but it almost seems as if they are going through the motions. It’s not even trending on Twitter. I don’t feel the raw anger and hatred from when the Catholic school in Minnesota was hit.
The only explanation I can think of is that the shooting happened in Tumbler Ridge, British Columbia, which is in the middle of nowhere. Nobody wants to send reporters to Yukon-lite in February, so we get no coverage.
No wonder Bezos laid these people off.
American media fails to publish story about news likely to be highly damaging to the preferred narrative of American media, news at 11.
Canadian media already fucked up and said too much about who the shooter was, so it's too late to deny it. The fact they haven't reported anything else suggests the other facts of the case are likely not in the regime's favor.
Canadians are a lot more passive-aggressive than that.
It’s hardly even on Fox. They love to report on trans shooters. I don’t buy it.
95% true -- it's a very small town where everybody literally knows everybody, and neighbours etc. have more-or-less confirmed the shooter's identity (both kinds!) on twitter.
There are fake (well real, but the wrong person) photos of a ridiculous young tranny from Ontario floating around; AFAICT that person has the same last name but is not the shooter; a yearbook photo of Jesse Strang for
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