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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 2, 2026

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Top Administration Officials Are Now Openly Admitting That America Is Israel's Bitch.

Rubio: "The president made the very wise decision—we knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties."

This wasn't clipped and quoted from a fringe groyper. This was posted by an official White House account.

I can't believe this shit. The United States has abdicated strategic initiative to Israel. The American armed forces in the Middle East have been reduced to reacting to and mitigating damage from Israel's operations in the theater. The straightforward interpretation of the above quote is that Israel started a war that killed American troops.

I was watching Tucker Carlson lay out this exact theory and thought, “well that’s an interesting idea. Too bad we’ll never know for sure.” And then the first thing I see when I tab over to Twitter is Marco Rubio making the exact same thought.

Walk me through the logic?

Would Israel not have struck Iran if the U.S. weren't involved?

If Israel struck Iran would Iran NOT have launched attacks that put U.S. personnel at risk?

And if Iran did strike U.S. bases or personnel, would the U.S. not have taken that as an act of war and retaliated?

If the fact is that Israel was going to strike, Iran would retaliate, and THEN the U.S. would retaliate as a matter of course... then yes, the inevitable conclusion is that a pre-emptive strike in cooperation with Israel is preferable all around.

I don't think making the game-theoretically sound action is the same as being the other party's bitch.

Or in other words, if Israel went in alone and lit the candle, and Iran dropped ordinance on Americans, would you be blaming that on Israel or Iran right now?

Would you be against the U.S. taking further action?

Or is your contention that Israel would have withheld their actions if they didn't have U.S. backing guaranteed?

You are ignoring the military buildup. Yes, the military buildup would be likely to provoke retaliation, but why do it in the first place? Because America is Israel's bitch and Israel cannot take on Iran alone and it knows it. So Netanyahu goes to Washington, Trump sends an obvious preparation for an attack, and then the US attacks on the logic that an attack would prompt retaliation. It's not a matter of "game theory", it's a matter of the US dancing to the tune of Netanyahu. This buildup was always going to lead to an attack, you don't bluff with that degree of military hardware.

but why do it in the first place?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres

Look, even as someone skeptical of Israel's influence on American politics, the Iranian government is NOT some innocent widdle victim in this little drama.

And its worth mentioning that our relationship with the current government of Iran STARTED by them taking a bunch of our diplomats hostage for over a year.

As far as I know Israel was not involved in that.

This is not a state that we could happily co-exist with. Even Kim Jong Un was willing to shake Trump's hand, at least. The stick was the only way this was ever going to go with the Ayatollah, in my estimation.

In this particular matter, U.S. and Israeli motives and goals are in very close alignment. And the Israelis are clearly putting some skin in the game. Its their cities that are getting bombarded, I've seen videos of that I'm pretty sure aren't AI.

If the ultimate position represented here is "I want to see Israel get its shit pushed in even if that means Iran gets a nuke and consolidates its grip in the region" then fine, just say that.

If you think Israel is capable of kneecapping Iran unilaterally, then I'm not sure why U.S. intervention would piss you off... provided little American blood or treasure is spilt in the process.

Or if your position is that Israel would happily false flag an Iranian attack on U.S. troops to get the U.S. involved, then SAY THAT. I just want the logic explained so I can assess.

That's what I'm saying. If Iran wouldn't retaliate against U.S. assets, but Israel will happily fire on our boys whilst claiming it was Iranian missiles, THAT is a stronger argument.

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