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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 9, 2026

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Can you explain why the Israel Lobby manipulated us into a situation where they get nuked? That doesn't sound very smart of them

I suspect Israel’s logic is more out of desperation. The know Iran’s going to get nukes and they know a core mission of the Islamic Revolution is the elimination of the ‘Zionist Entity’ by any means necessary - why wouldn’t that include nukes? Iran after all destroyed its relationships with countless others in the region, got sanctioned by half the world and spent billions of dollars just to fund pretty much every major hostile force on Israel’s border (none of whom are ethnically Persian, many of whom aren’t even Shia). They did it solely to attack Israel, for purely ideological reasons. An Iranian nuclear first strike was always a possibility.

In that scenario, maybe the Israelis calculated that even a war with Iran with a 20% chance of destroying the government or sparking a collapse or uprising was worth it.

Well if Iran was going to destroy Israel anyways and it was only a matter of time then we don't need the phantom of "the Israel Lobby" to explain why America would rather just go to war

The United States is going to expend massive amounts of financial and political capital ensuring that Israel doesn’t get nuked. We could have done this much easier via diplomacy. The benefit to Israel of doing it this way instead is that Iran also has all of its conventional weapons and economic power wiped out as well.

We could have done this much easier via diplomacy

As I understand it, Iran declared that stopping nuclear enrichment/capabilities to do so wasn't on the table. Which means no, there really wasn't a diplomatic option possible that I can see.

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