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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 27, 2026

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Why do a lot of women not like acknowledging the practical aspects of dating? By this I mean that women appear to be put off by me simply discussing:

  1. The importance of looks (not just physical but also fashion) and how one might improve that (whether man or woman)
  2. The usefulness of economic concepts such as SMV and the dating market
  3. The biological clock for having kids (more apparent for women, but men also have degrading sperm quality with age)

Of course I'm not discussing these topic with women I'm trying to actually date, I'm not that autistic. But if you're trying to actually find a partner to settle down and have kids with, how do you not take all of these into account? Not only does it reek of impracticality, but on an even deeper level, it appears that any attempt to practically model the dating world at all produces a negative female reaction.

(Maybe it's because some of these women don't ever intend on having kids and therefore don't ever have to be realistic about dating.)

In my experience women are quite willing to discuss such topics, especially reproduction-related.

(I don't live in the USA though, might be cultural difference.)

More specifically: (3) is just an absolutely normal topic for discussing, just be more tactful -- age doesn't have mercy on anyone; (2) SMV and "marked" are too subjective. Even on the most primitive level, some people like blonds, some like black hair. People are repelled by claiming that attraction is universal, it's not.; (1) women LOVE discussing looks, like giving advice and disparaging people with suboptimal looks. They even like receiving advice on looks, but with a caveat, it's better too avoid saying bluntly "do like that beauty does", women become jealous (and rightfully), so be more tactful.

Overall, really, try to pay less attention to females' look, looks gonna wane, but personal qualities won't.

I would disagree specifically with the characterization of #2. You can still speak of a "used car market" even if used cars come in all sorts of varieties. No two used cars are the same, and the same scratch on a car will be okay for one person and not okay for another. Doesn't mean used car buyers or sellers are any less immune from the inherent implications of scarcity.

How would men appreciate it if women started discussing frankly "Look, you'll be 35 in two years. That's way too old if I'm thinking of having kids with good prospects. You better set your sights lower, some 40+ woman done with childbearing will probably take you if you smarten up, get rid of those awful clothes, and hit the gym" 😂

The data suggested that once a dad hits age 35, there's a slight increase in birth risks overall - with every year that a man ages, he accumulates on average two new mutations in the DNA of his sperm - but birth risks for infants born to fathers of the subsequent age tier showed sharper increases.

Compared with fathers between the ages of 25 and 34 (the average age of paternity in the United States), infants born to men 45 or older were 14 percent more likely to be admitted to the NICU, 14 percent more likely to be born prematurely, 18 percent more likely to have seizures and 14 percent more likely to have a low birth weight. If a father was 50 or older, the likelihood that their infant would need ventilation upon birth increased by 10 percent, and the odds that they would need assistance from the neonatal intensive care unit increased by 28 percent.

Gentlemen! You want to maximise your SMV for long-term commitment? Go out there between age 20-24 and sell yourself as eager to be a dad before your genetic stock plummets! 🤣

"Women age like milk, men age like wine" means that eventually you get cheese and vinegar.

Depends if the women in question are reading Aria Shrecker? (They should be, she's great)

The best age of man to target is probably younger than you think. I think you should focus your attention on men in their mid twenties. In my poll, the average age of men in relationships was 31, two years older than the single men, but they met their wives/girlfriends at a median age of 25. I recommend any woman 27 and younger to aim for people in their mid twenties. They are probably not thinking about marriage yet but they will be after a couple of years. And they haven’t hit their peak sexual market value yet so you can buy a great guy at a discount.

My view is that (1) don't cohabit - free milk and the cow rule (2) if he's not willing to entertain the idea of marriage after a couple of years, move on. If women are on the biological clock, beauty and fertility have a shelf life, and you do want marriage and children, don't waste time on a guy who is not ready to settle down but thinks he has until he's forty to decide if he does want a missus.

I think if women were a lot pickier than they are, there would be more marriage and children. That might be tough on the guys who think "hey, I'm only thirty, I'm in my prime, I want to play the field and not get tied down, men are naturally promiscuous that's just evo-psych" but they can't have that and complain that women are promiscuous and flighty if they're sleeping with men and not marrying them. If you want that traditional wife (or husband), you have to abide by traditional rules.

How would men appreciate it if women started discussing frankly "Look, you'll be 35 in two years. That's way too old if I'm thinking of having kids with good prospects. You better set your sights lower, some 40+ woman done with childbearing will probably take you if you smarten up, get rid of those awful clothes, and hit the gym"

If it were true (which it is generally not), it would be rather refreshing to men who are constantly having to try to figure out the truth behind the lies they get all the time. Having two things he knows are significant and he can do something about (awful clothes and out of shape) would probably leave him overjoyed.

But he can't turn back the clock, and being told (as a man) that your best years are behind you once you hit 30 would probably be hurtful as well. 'You're too old now, you're 29 and never got married, all you can hope for is that some cougar will take pity on you and make you her toy-boy' - well that's just a straight-talking assessment of your SMV, not a rejection of you as a whole person?

Of course women have no problem rubbing it in men's face that they peak earlier and thus get to spend their youth in the privileged position over men. Then they get conceited and believe that privilege is the natural order and are thus horrified by men's later peak suddenly reversing that and exposing them to the exact same treatment they dished out when they were younger.

Yes, but he's a man -- that part isn't actually true.

How would men appreciate it if women started discussing frankly "Look, you'll be 35 in two years. That's way too old if I'm thinking of having kids with good prospects. You better set your sights lower, some 40+ woman done with childbearing will probably take you if you smarten up, get rid of those awful clothes, and hit the gym" 😂

Well, except for "some 40+ woman done with childbearing will probably take you", men do in fact listen to and take all that other advice you mention!

How would men appreciate it if women started discussing frankly "Look, you'll be 35 in two years. That's way too old if I'm thinking of having kids with good prospects. You better set your sights lower, some 40+ woman done with childbearing will probably take you if you smarten up, get rid of those awful clothes, and hit the gym" 😂

"Would?"

In 2023, approximately 9.8% of infants in the United States were admitted to a NICU. Let's assume I have the average risk profile (I don't), then a 14% increase brings that up to 11.2%. In other words, from my perspective it's an imperceptible increase in risk for me to have kids after 45. In contrast, an average woman at 35 is already at about 2/3 her peak fertility, and by 40 is below 10%. Apples and oranges my friend.

Apples and oranges my friend.

The preferred terminology is "whisky and milk"

Although "apples and oranges" actually works - apples are climacteric and so can continue to ripen after picking, whereas oranges and other citrus fruits are not and need to be picked fully ripe and eaten quickly. But this is not obvious because (unlike, say, bananas) intentionally ripening apples in your fruit bowl is not a big part of how you eat them.

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