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I have no idea if it's true. If it is, it's terrible. But yeah, I had to darkly chuckle as I remembered the comments on here about sexual harassment at work being no big deal, if you can get a promotion by sleeping with your boss why not?
So guys, what's the opinion now that it is a man being told "sleep with me or I can ruin your career"?
EDIT: In agreement with other comments that this does sound fabricated, at least in part. The guy is described as "Asian" which could be anything, there's claims it's this person so he's probably? possibly? Indian. If this is his employment history, wow. He seems to have only lasted a year or so everywhere he worked, so you do have to wonder if he's not very good at the job and is now trying to make hay out of "Affair with boss did not result in promotion so revenge and more importantly large hush-money pay out it is!"
"Asian fish head wife"? is this saying his wife is South-East Asian or has a pointy head? I am not at all familiar with Eastern European invective so have no idea if "fish head" is a common Albanian insult?
EDIT EDIT: Well, whether or not The New York Post is as much a newspaper of record as >The New York Times, here is another allegation:
Dude better hope he gets a payout, as I can see his new job at Bregal Sagemount ending soon after all this scandal.
And wow, this is him, I wasn't quite sure but again: "Rana, a former basketball player and Rutgers graduate"
My opinion is "See, we still call them a lying retard even when the genders are reversed and it would be really funny if it were true, see?"
There was a certain amount of comment on here previously about "what's so bad about sexual harassment?" and that if you could get a promotion merely by sleeping with your boss, or even just better treatment/it's part of the job of being my secretary, then okay ladies just go with it.
So now, are we still of the mind that sexual harassment is no big deal and this guy should just shut up and put out for that chance at a better career? Everyone was very cavalier when it was women taking such cases, mainly I think because they thought "I'm a guy, my guy boss is never going to expect me to give him a blow job!" but now I want to know: if your boss (male or female) does demand oral sex from you, are you guys still of the same opinion that "yeah sure, I'll get on my knees and comply"?
Tag those guys with their past comments and we'll make them tell us.
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How is it possible he had the same experience at Morgan Stanley, his employer before JP Morgan?
There’s absolutely no chance it’s real.
https://x.com/andrewalanpolk/status/2050008447698018342
It could be possible that he's trying to develop a scam and/or tried the old "get a promotion by hooking up with the boss" move or even just "complain about THE RACISM and get a big payout" before, it worked (sort of) and now he tried it again and it's not working. Comparing their work histories, the female executive has been at JP Morgan since 2011 and doesn't seem to have worked elsewhere, while he's had six jobs in four years. One of these sounds more like "isn't working out so time to part ways by mutual agreement and move on" than the other, and if that's his employment history then he may well feel he's never going to get something permanent, might as well try for a pay out.
I 100% think that’s what happened!
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Yeah, it seems pretty dubious to me as well. I just wish society would be similarly skeptical when women tell (apparent) whoppers about men.
It gets better! If I can trust this link on /r/Drama (and why should I not trust them?), the previous time he tried it, he claimed it was a MALE boss who did all the drugging and assaulting and threatening.
So either our friend is such a hunk of irresistible sexiness, both men and women want to do nasty things to him, or yes he's telling porky pies the naughty naughty boy!
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Is she ugly? (I kid)
She's okay. Pretty enough. I think she's probably a dyed blonde rather than natural, but I can't be sure by the photos and she did it discreetly enough if it is a dye job. Neither of them are stunning in looks, but she isn't ugly enough to be so starved of male company she had to domme him for it 😁
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