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Important thing is that 5 justices agreed to the main majority ruling which means this issue is hopefully settled and dead for another 130 years. The right is free to try to change the constitution if they don't like the consequences.
I'm halfway through Alito's dissent and man is that dude a hack. Same level of bad as Sotomayor.
Roe v. Wade was overturned only 50 years later, Brown v. Board of Education overturned Plessy v. Ferguson only 60 years later.
50 years/60 years are also good enough for me. By then the makeup of the US will be so different to right now it'll be effectively a different country regardless!
Why would you be happy about this ruling and then say the US would essentially be a different country. The US or Rome is the great country the world has ever seen - why would you want that dead? There is nothing more important than preserving the US.
He genuinely hates the US and the West and would like to see it collapse.
Wrong. I think there's a lot good about western countries and their history and everything. It's the people I mostly have an issue with, not the countries themselves. The USA for example I think has it in it to become the shining city on a hill it aspires to be, the geographic expanse, the natural beauty, the resources, it's the people and more specifically the mindset of these people that irks me.
The country IS the people, not the land. Land is a resource. You're essentially saying that you want to destroy me, my people, and my culture so that someone else can have my stuff. That is pretty antagonistic and make you unambiguously my enemy.
What's your ethnic background? What ethnicities would you include or exclude from the category of "true" American people?
I'm Pennsylvanian. My parents, and my grandparents, and my great grandparents, and (most of) my great great grandparents were all born and raised in Pennsylvania. We do things like deer hunting, going to Firehall Weddings, doing the Chicken Dance, treating our neighbors with respect and kindness, and going to sane Christian churches that actually follow Jesus' teachings and focus on being good people instead of angry moralist hypocrites. If you work hard and take care of the people around you, they'll take care of you in turn.
I don't care whatsoever what "ethnicity" someone is, I care about their culture and their values and their behaviors. I'm not automatically opposed to any and all immigration, but it needs to be very limited and controlled so that the burden is on them to integrate into the culture and communities they move to rather than the other way around. If you LIKE Amerca, and want to BE American, and want to come join us and learn how to be like us, and put forth a good faith effort towards that then I will accept you and allow you to do that. I have had friends and neighbors of many ethnicities who have done this, or their parents or grandparents had done this, and they were Americans. If two people from a foreign country like America and want to be America and legally come here and have children who are born in America and raised in America and their parents do the thing where they mostly forget about their old culture and language and raise the child as American, then I will happily accept that child as an America.
What I have a problem with is exploiters. People who want free welfare and healthcare and education, so they come here and have foreign children who they raise as foreigners with foreign values living on our soil but with American rights. People who have no intention or desire to contribute to taxes and just want to take take take. People who come here for jobs to send money back home to their families and then leave but snatched a free citizenship for their children in case they ever decide to come back. People like Hasan Piker who was born in the U.S. then immediately brought back to Turkey where he was raised as a Turkish Muslim, whose feelings and nationalism and loyalty are to Turkey and the Turkish people, who then comes back to the U.S. and pretends to be one of us while trying to undermine us.
I have a problem with people who hate America and the American people while trying to extract our resources and export them to their home countries where their hearts and loyalties truly lie.
People respond to incentives. I'm like 80% on board with the general idea of birthright citizenship. If someone is born and raised in America, with the cultural values and loyalty to America, then by all rights they are American. But if you take it to the extremes, where a South American defector who does not respect their home community nor ours, abandons their people, violates our laws, hops the border, and then births to a baby on our soil in order to get them citizenship on a technicality, this is a BAD incentive. That baby is not an American, it belongs to the country that its parents belong to. There is no sense in which the parents or the baby are loyal to or culturally American. They should all go back home, as soon as possible. I don't care what ethnicity they are. The problem is not that they don't look like me, the problem is that they do not act like me, and when conflict arises they will not feel an innate desire to protect me or stand up for me, because they don't consider themselves true Americans either.
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