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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 29, 2026

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The Supreme Court has issued a ruling on Trump v. Barbara (birthright citizenship). 6-3 striking down Trump's executive order. You can find the ruling here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25-365_4hdj.pdf

I've only had enough time to skim the ruling thus far. Jackson wrote a concurrence which I won't bother to read because she's the second most retarded member of the court (Sotomayor still reigns supreme in retardation). Kavanaugh partially concurred on the basis that this needed to be done by act of congress as opposed to executive order, but otherwise generally agreed with the Trump admin's interpretation of the 14th amendment. Thomas and Gorsuch outright dissented. Alito had his own separate dissent. Thomas's opinion includes several historical examples of people born on US soil to people not lawfully in the US who were denied citizenship, and I was not aware of these examples previously, making his the most interesting. Well that and the fact that it agrees with my 100% objectively correct and indisputable view of the matter of course.

This is roughly how most court-watchers expected this decision to turn out, but it still doesn't change the immense disappointment I feel over this news. Someone here earlier this week or last week said that this decision will be our generation's Dred Scott regardless of how it is decided, and that it will tear the union apart in similar fashion. Demographic changes in the West generally are leading to ever increasing tension and dysfunction, and I fear this decision will ensure that a breaking point is reached soooner, rather than later.

Important thing is that 5 justices agreed to the main majority ruling which means this issue is hopefully settled and dead for another 130 years. The right is free to try to change the constitution if they don't like the consequences.

I'm halfway through Alito's dissent and man is that dude a hack. Same level of bad as Sotomayor.

Roe v. Wade was overturned only 50 years later, Brown v. Board of Education overturned Plessy v. Ferguson only 60 years later.

50 years/60 years are also good enough for me. By then the makeup of the US will be so different to right now it'll be effectively a different country regardless!

Why would you be happy about this ruling and then say the US would essentially be a different country. The US or Rome is the great country the world has ever seen - why would you want that dead? There is nothing more important than preserving the US.

He genuinely hates the US and the West and would like to see it collapse.

It's because this is good for him and his likes, and not for the likes of me.

Wrong. I think there's a lot good about western countries and their history and everything. It's the people I mostly have an issue with, not the countries themselves. The USA for example I think has it in it to become the shining city on a hill it aspires to be, the geographic expanse, the natural beauty, the resources, it's the people and more specifically the mindset of these people that irks me.

Because the people of Pakistan totally would have built something so much better if they were simply on the magic soil of America, obviously.

The country IS the people, not the land. Land is a resource. You're essentially saying that you want to destroy me, my people, and my culture so that someone else can have my stuff. That is pretty antagonistic and make you unambiguously my enemy.

If someone says you hate "the US and West" they don't mean you hate the geography or natural resources. It is the people, culture or institutions that would be the objects of hatred.

In fifty years the Latinos, Indians, East Asians and Muslims will have Irishified and the United States will be back to being 85 percent white.

I know I might be feeding a troll, but are you aware of the evidence that European ethnicities don't fully assimilate, as well as the fact that the genetic distances between white Americans and the races you listed are more than 5 times as large as those between European ethnicities? If you're not trolling, I don't understand how in 2026 such naive blank slatism feels plausible to you.

Oh, you mean like how Boston is an Irish city, not an American one, and now places like Houston and Los Angeles are going to be Mexican cities, and Dearborn will become Muslim?

Yes, the replacement will continue apace. The slope is still slippery, and we are still sliding.

With how "melting pot" has been deemed Nazi-adjacent in the past decade, in favor of "salad bowl" or "mosaic," I'm skeptical that repeating history in this way is likely. With immigrants and their children being actively discouraged against assimilating, it's going to be hard for them to "Irishify," even before you get to the superficial differences. Arguably we're seeing some of the fruits of that change in attitude towards immigrant assimilation today, with the strong anti-Jewish push happening on the left.

Latinos are pretty likely to just be tan white people in another generation or two, they’re already assimilating and they want to be white.

No they will not be tan white people. They will either be nearly identical to native Europeans or be servant class. That is how it works in Mexico. So the most likely path is they will be tan people who clean your table and home.

They’re already majority euro by ancestry, and are intermarrying at high rates- it’s unlikely that ‘Mexican Americans’ will be genetically distinctive in 100 years.

Bell Curve 2 with a lower mean merging into Bell Curve 1 with a higher mean, thus creating a merged Bell Curve whose mean is the weighted average of its two constituents, is still a bad outcome when we could have just stuck with Bell Curve 1 and prevented Bell Curve 2 from coming into the picture in the first place.

Fair point. But it'll be a more inclusive "white" which I'll take.

The East Asians are pretty much already there, and Latinos can probably make it, too. But Indians and Muslims? I don't see it. They will remain distinct, unassimilable groups, like blacks.

The East Asians are pretty much already there

Not even close, in any way. Happas are very acutely aware of their own non-whiteness.

in a contrast to other groups historically, this seems more far more imposed from within the minority than from the majority.

Second or third generation Indians have mostly already assimilated in my neck of the woods.

What does that even mean? Are they only 25% or 12.5% Indian on average? Because otherwise I can point out an important way in which they failed to assimilate.

I’ve found upper caste Indias (and Pakis etc) as probably the group that easiest assimilates to the US. Especially in the upper class. We have right-wing Indian politicians in the west.

There’s basically zero East Asian or non-European Latinos in power in the west. Caste probably significantly matters for Indians and Muslims. And a wider variety of outcomes.

Norman Mineta (Japanese) was in the cabinet when Gary Locke (Chinese) and Ben Cayetano (Filipino) were Governor. Mazie Hirono (Japanese) is in the Senate, Hung Cao (Viet) is acting secretary of the Navy, Elaine Chao (Chinese) is Secretary of Transportation.

So, Hawaii and Washington governors, Senator from Hawaii, and a smattering of cabinet roles.

Not a lot of non-European Latinos in power in Latin America either.

Everything that has been said about Mamdani was said word-for-word about Kennedy.

They accused Kennedy of being a communist? Because that's what I hear about Mamdani when I turn on the radio.

Yes, Kennedy being soft on Communism to the point of being a secret or not-so-secret red was a constant rhetorical drum beat on the right, like it has been about every single democratic politician since FDR. Look at the “Wanted For Treason” flyers that were being passed around Dallas the day he was murdered.

Nobody ever called Kennedy a Ugandan Muslim.

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