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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 29, 2026

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America could have been the best country on Earth but immigrants have stolen it and turned it into a mediocre, and declining, country

I think you mean non-white immigrants. If so, please just have the balls to come out and say that. Otherwise this logic is tortured. America was built by immigrants. The average US citizen is an immigrant or a descendant of an immigrant who came here from late 19th century (start of Ellis Island) onwards, Trump included. But I never hear complaints about the European immigration waves, just Indians, Chinese, Somalis, Muslims, Mexicans.

Unfortunately The Motte didn't exist back in 1920.

We probably talk about the R1b expansion an unusual amount relative to The Motte not exist 14Kish years ago either, though.

America was built by immigrants

Going into the wilderness and building your home from trees and mud is not the same as flying to a city on an H-1B to undercut someone else's computer job (better case) or flying to a city and being subsidized (normal case)

I'm a race realist but not a white nationalist. The problem with immigrants is that they are too average, and that there are too many average people. The country that concentrates the most smart people while making sure the existing smart people in the country are benefiting from it wins. With Asian and slavic immigration some might say America is doing that, but those people are largely 120 IQ cheaters and not really brilliant. Some of them are fine but their numbers should have been maybe 20% of what went in. They should not dominate American STEM like they do.

But I never hear complaints about the European immigration waves

You may not have hard of them, but there exist valid objections to the behaviors of certain Ellis Islander groups. I would guess that WhiningCoil more precisely means non-Hajnali immigrants.

But I never hear complaints about the European immigration waves

The reason you don't hear about those guys as much is because it used to be a major fucking issue until we did a 40 year immigration moratorium and had a couple apocalyptic wars to bind us all together. And you can still trace out the marked difference in voting and crime patterns. One of the biggest cultural impacts from the Italians was an entire genre of crime media.

But modern mafiosos can't get away with burying people in the Pine Barrens anymore. Conversely, one of our two political parties seems cheerfully willing to tolerate any amount of government and welfare fraud from the Somalians.

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