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Culture War Roundup for the week of February 27, 2023

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Exactly, I’d rather continue to take mandatory DEI trainings than be under the CCP.

‘Lies about how awesome Mao is’ are not a significant improvement on ‘lies about how awesome black supremacists from the 70’s are’.

It's not "the lies" that are the issue.

Pretending to think that declaring war on sparrows and killing 100 million people was a stroke of genius doesn't seem like a notable improvement on pretending to believe that black women have some kind of unique insight.

Simply put, I find the fact that you think that to be illustrative.

Have we really forgotten how vocally "pro-lockdown" theMotte was back in Q1 of 2020? All the lamentations from Darwin, Cimafara and others about how "unfortunate" it was that western governments seemed to lack the political will to weld people into their homes or engage in mass arrests/executions to curb the spread of Covid?

Are you really going to try to argue that mandatory DEI training constitutes a greater evil than Concentration Camps, the Great Leap Forward, or involuntary organ harvesting?

Is your selective rafa-memory acting up again? As I recall, they were of the opinion to just let old people die. I had the opposite, now rescinded, opinion. Although in the face of uncertainty having the pro-lockdown opinion wasn't as erroneous as it was for later proponents.

I don't think I'm being selective here, I think that you and others have chosen to forget.

Mine is older . Rafa was anti-lockdown earlier than the median mottizen.

What do you think that proves? It's no secret that @2rafa change's her position as readily as a weather-vane, a cynic might even suspect that this is the reason she habitually deletes her own posts.

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I think you're misinterpreting me? I'm saying that actually trying zero covid and claiming the great leap forward was a stroke of genius isn't an improvement over hiring some unqualified black women and letting them bloviate about race.

Saying that "one is not an improvement on the other" implies that they are equivalent, so no i don't think I've misinterpreted you.

They’re both just lies though. Requiring your underlings to believe Mao was a genius leader, that black women have some special insight and should be deferred to whenever possible, and that the timecube guy was the wisest human are essentially equivalent.

Now the actions of the Chinese state at home are significantly more barbaric than the actions of… any western govt. But I read the specific person I was responding to as talking specifically about state ideology that subservient governments could expect to have imposed, and not about actually living in the actual countries up for discussion(I mean even more realistically US puppets aren’t required to follow the pied piper on American race and gender nonsense and while China uses its influence to tamp down on criticism it doesn’t try to make everyone think the Great Leap Forward was awesome. But whatever).

They’re both just lies though.

"Just", there is that word again. To paraphrase Adam Savage, I reject your framing and substitute my own.

Why? I feel the exact opposite way.

You’d rather take mandatory trainings on the party? Wear a loyalty pin?

For me zero COVID alone would be a nightmare. Hong Kong just dropped their mask mandate last week!

I suppose if I have to be ruled by tyrants, I'd much rather have the ones that don't change the rules constantly and look to permanent revolution.

At least with the CCP, you know what you're getting.

The sense of unity though, of everyone of any religion, ethnicity and political persuasion coming together - from all over the world - to fight Winnie the pooh and friends, it would be such a relief.

Just think - no wondering if that person I just met at work is a monster obsessed with killing black/white people - not having to wonder about anyone who isn't Chinese at all at the start (not to mention how much easier it would be to score a cute Chinese girlfriend when everyone is terrified of them - sure you can spy on me sweetie, I know less than nothing). It sounds like bliss.

Note that I read the scenario here as things are exactly the same as they are now but the ccp are in charge, and people aren't saying they wish the last 20 years were rewritten so that the ccp steamrolled the world and everywhere now looks like China, because I can't imagine either IGI-111 or Lizzardspawn going for that based on previous conversations, and because that would require a lot more set up to engage with hypothetically.

Yeah I don't think anyone saying they would love to be under the ccp lived in a place that "took covid seriously", my country dropped their mask mandates mid-2022, by god I was going insane, if I was in China where they have stricter covid rules and lockdowns, I would have probably jumped out of the window by now.

US Red State residents have no idea how good they had it the last two years.

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