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I dunno how much of that is just projecting what we already know about Lindsay on to her appearance. If her photo had been used in a human interest story about a local mom running a bake sale to raise money for sick kittens, I very much doubt you'd look at her twice. To me, she looks like a completely unremarkable suburban mother which, if anything, makes the enormity of her crimes even more disturbing than they would otherwise have been.

Look at photos of any convicted con man or fraudster, and my guess is that you'll consider them more handsome than the average person – many of them will likely have been said to have "a face you can trust". Despite what third-wave feminists would have us believe, most convicted rapists are not sexually frustrated incels, but rather men who already have lots of casual sex. The cad (the handsome, charming man who sweet-talks his way into a woman's knickers only to ditch her when he's had his fun) is an established archetype in basically every culture in the world. If physiognomy was a reliable guide to people's conduct, why do domestic abuse shelters exist (in countries which don't practise arranged marriages)? Why are there so many single mothers? Looking at the poor sexual and romantic choices made by women (made by people, arguably), the underlying cause in most cases is placing too much stock in physiognomic appraisals rather than too little.

Your con man argument actually argues for physiognomy, just an imperfect one.

I have a kind and approachable face, so people often approach me for directions or other things. And they’re right to. I am kind and approachable.

But let’s say that 1% of people with my physiognomy have criminal tendencies. Would it not be easy to prey on people? Certainly much easier for me than for the guy who looks like an extra in a mob movie.

But this is assuming the conclusion. How do we know that the majority of people with faces perceived to be "kind and approachable" actually are "kind and approachable"? How do we know that those two things are correlated at all? Why is that the null hypothesis?

We don't really. I feel that it's true but obviously no one is studying this rigorously.

Appearances definitely matter but it's hard to say how much is clothing and broad gender/racial characteristics. Nevertheless, if I see a guy with a face like this, I'm giving him some space.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Valuev#/media/File:Valuev-nach-Haye-Fight-2009.jpg

Looking at the poor sexual and romantic choices made by women (made by people, arguably), the underlying cause in most cases is placing too much stock in physiognomic appraisals rather than too little.

I'd argue that this is a case of the opposite, it's just that the person choosing the romantic partner, whose radar for these things is broken for some reason. Everyone around are almost always able to tell immediately that the person is rotten, from barely more than a glance.

Looking at the poor sexual and romantic choices made by women (made by people, arguably), the underlying cause in most cases is placing too much stock in physiognomic appraisals rather than too little.

I'd argue that this is a case of the opposite, it's just that the person choosing the romantic partner, whose radar for these things is broken for some reason. Everyone around are almost always able to tell immediately that the person is rotten, from barely more than a glance.

If only there were some third party with a vested genetic interest in the woman's well-being to whom the choice of romantic partners could be outsourced...

Same goes for men. People insist on keep sticking their dicks in crazy.

But are they able to tell that the person is rotten based on their physiognomy or based on their demeanour?

A combination I'd wager. I doubt many people would make a confident prediction based on appearance alone (unless there is something really wrong), but I do think it communicates a fair bit.

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