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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 28, 2026

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I hadn't been paying close attention to the details of the story and I was under the impression that her being unconscious (and therefore incapable of consent) was an agreed-upon fact. Upon closer reading it does seem like the unconscious part is under contention, with the DA saying that when the incident was originally reported, she did not report being unconscious, which seems like the classic story-changing pattern.

Maybe I was too quick to update.

I've seen a bunch of posting on social media indicating that a recording of the sex act exists and shows her conscious and enthusiastically participating, though might just be garbled twitter stuff.

While that could be true, I would hope her attorneys would've determined what evidence was floating around first before filing suit as they are presumably working on contingency. It's bad for business to get 1/3 of $0.

What are the odds Cornell settles anyway, for the sake of ideology and bad press?

Assume it’s free money. But it’s a weird place for colleges now and it would be easier to get the payout a few years ago.

Schools do want to capture some of the southern school rise of not be dominated by wokism/me-too ism. But parents also don’t want their daughters going to schools where their daughter is having consented ketamine-booze gangbangs. Except for a few EA types.

So Cornell probably doesn’t want to look like activist can just bully policy. Internally Cornell’s ideal social experience is being seen as fun on the weekends but sex is monogamous.

Yeah but consider some of the absolutely insane frivolous culture war cases lately. Karmelo Anthony's family suing and leading to a bunch of evidence entering the record that made him look worse, or whatever the hell is going on with the Nolan Wells situation. All you need is one desperate/aggressive enough lawfirm.

There were almost certainly actual crimes involved in the Nolan wells situation. Hes not an innocent victim, but transportation provided by an intoxicated teen is one of those things that isn’t an innocent explanation.

I haven't especially delved deep into the details with Nolan Wells but my understanding is that 'drunk teens near water occasionally ends very badly' essentially covers most of what's required to know and that most accusations of foul play are essentially 'they racistly racism'd him'

The accusations of murder have no substance to them. But drunken teenagers driving a boat to drunken party island where they left one of their friends behind without making sure he got his phone back were at the minimum being shitty friends with a willingness to violate minor laws(DUI, MIP, etc).

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