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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 27, 2023

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incorrectly claim it means coordinated suppression efforts

How do you know this is incorrect?

I don’t!

@desolation has the right of it. I think the (lack of) coverage will be driven by individual discomfort. Editorial meddling will be less common, and inversely proportional to the scale of the outlet. Suppression at the C-suite level will be rarer still, and coordinated suppression between executives in different corporations will be nonexistent.

Thus I expect to see a few leaked conversations at lower levels saying things like “mentioning gender makes us look bad!” or “we’re giving ammunition to people who hate trans.” It goes without saying that this will be spun as strong evidence for Soros (or whoever is the Gay Agenda bogeyman?) commanding his minions to bury the story. I realize I can’t disprove this, since the absence of evidence could just mean a bogeyman is competent. But my expectation is that burial will emerge from individual incentives. Starlings in flight.

@desolation has the right of it. I think the (lack of) coverage will be driven by individual discomfort. Editorial meddling will be less common, and inversely proportional to the scale of the outlet. Suppression at the C-suite level will be rarer still,

All perfectly in accordance with coordination theory

and coordinated suppression between executives in different corporations will be nonexistent.

Yeah, they coordinate on the strategic, rather than operational level.

I realize I can’t disprove this

I'm not even asking for that. Just would be nice if you didn't confidently assert the opposite without providing arguments.

I think this is basically the "prospiracy" idea: there is no central coordination or singular grand plan, but everyone is in the same direction anyways.

There's mailing lists, and discords, and other forms of communication.

The key here is coordinated, which would be virtually impossible to prove anyways; the position is there's no Grand Dragon of Progressivism contacting all the networks to shut it down or else.

That's not what coordinated means. Since problem_redittor decided to jog our memory of GamerGate, I firmly recall it being called a "coordinated harassment campaign" because a bunch of people met up in chat rooms, even though there was no Grand Dragon of GamerGate either.

For me the key is "incorrect". If you're going to say something like that, you should give a compelling argument for why I should consider it so, not hide behind mere lack of evidence for the opposite.

but some people get fussy about "coordination" sounding conspiratorial.

I'm the resident conspiracy theorist here, and my response to "it sounds conspiratorial" is "thanks for noticing".

Or the key could be suppression; no one's "suppressing it," they're just selectively ignoring it because it has some inconvenient features.

While I can't prove it in this specific case, it's not exactly uncommon for an editor/producer to kill a story.

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