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Wellness Wednesday for April 5, 2023

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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I recently completed the Deep Water lifting program (https://www.jon-andersen.com/free-deep-water-ebook/). It's a 6 week program intended to be run on a bulk, but though I gained 2kg, I don't feel like I've gained any muscle or gotten any stronger.

Some comments on the program - it's pretty unpleasant to run, Jon Andersen has a 300lb ego to match his 300lb body. It had me doing power cleans, which I've never done as part of a program. I'm pretty sure I'm doing them terribly.

But in the end the only thing that matters is results, and I didn't get them. I'm 2kg fatter and six weeks older, and left to brood over how weak, fat, and lazy I am. It's genuinely difficult to think about anything else.

This seems crazy to me. If you are indeed weak, fat, and presumably untrained, then darn near any 6 week program should have you showing nice results in strength if nothing else.

Weak and fat may be relative terms here. I'm not super familiar with deep water but my second hand impression was that it would kill a noob.

Some of my friends tell me I'm weak and fat. Some of my acquaintances have seriously asked me if I'm on steroids. It's all in the mind.