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Had a response, realized who's posting, and realized that it's all a bit too tidy. Oh, yeah, are you deeply affronted by users like sentinellgrave? You're not posting that looking to elicit a response of any sort? Definitely not attempting to move the needle in any particular direction?
No they definitely don't, the rules don't really allow me to express my sentiments in their fullest viscerallity about what should be done about such people who do these acts of racial terrorism and what should happen to their appeasers. My fucking god how cucked and brainwashed must you be in the moment of such tragedy to be advocating for your attacker and their group.
When we know that it was an act of racial terrorism, then you can go full keyboard warrior.
Right now it's looking like "guy who was probably in the throes of a mental episode". I only am aware of the races of three of the victims: the white English young student and the older man, and the half-Irish/half-Indian girl student. I don't know what race(s) the two people who were run over are. Perpetrator is West African.
It's the parents of the Irish-Indian girl who are asking not for responses like yours, and that's because as Irish in Britain and Indian in Britain both of them are likely to have encountered some form of "your nationality is shit" (not as often as in the past, thank goodness, but there are still pockets of ignorance).
The person in the link in the OP appears to be the mother of Barnaby Webber, who was white English, so unless you've seen some other parent talking about this in some other source, perhaps you should read before harrumphing about your racial enlightenment.
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PM me your sentiments instead. I’ll tip you.
I’m very surprised, in the past 5-10 years there have been a number (handful?) of these high visibility cases where the family, typically parents of these victims make sure to prioritize giving a public statement of some racial slave morality bent. In a proper country these family members would be held accountable as accomplice to these homicides. I’ll throw “stochastic” in front of homicide to give it the imprimatur of reason.
As the wheel turns in reaction against the culture these displays issue from, we might one day delight in seeing them crushed underneath that wheel.
My God, Americans really are ignorant. Remind me why the fuck I ever came back here.
Please note: the entire rest of the world is not the same as your crabbed little polarised wars. "Whitey so great!!" chest-beating like this isn't yet part of our discourse, even given the best efforts of the type of actual white supremacist losers to export it to my country from both the USA and the UK.
I don't think that's common discourse in America either?
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Is it really so difficult to believe that she might just be a good person who genuinely cares enough about doing what she believes is the right thing despite her grief? You may typical mind her to the point that her speech and feelings can't possibly be genuine, but not everybody processes their emotions in the same way as you.
Tell me, when Fox News regularly interviews families with children murdered by illegal immigrants are you similarly disgusted? Do you cringe and berate them for giving speeches on national television rather than grieving alone at home? How about Trump giving a panel with Bill Clinton's victims?
Most people are fundamentally good and want to do the right thing. I think she's deserving of at least as much charity as you're willing to extend to your tribe.
As an aside, is this comment:
So unremarkable that nobody here even bothers to point it out? I know, don't feed the trolls and all, but that tweet is just funny and self-sabotaging to the point of satire. Not to mention the followup tweet 'Hitler! Hitler! Hitler!'
Sentinel is pretty open about his nazism so it's not really remarkable from him. He's also a teenager, which makes it doubly unsurprising.
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What this brought to mind was the father of a kidnapped and murdered daughter saying that the cohort from which his daughter's murderer came were, "Iowans with better food," as if street tacos and breakfast burritos can make up for your murdered daughter.
You seem to be implying that he said that having his daughter murdered is an acceptable trade-off for good food. He didn't. He just said that the vast majority of Mexicans are not violent murderers and they shouldn't be collectively punished for the actions of a single madman.
Assuming you are a White American, I don't think you are in any way responsible for the actions of John Wayne Gacy. If you are from a different ethnic group, I'm sure it has produced similarly evil people, and you are not responsible for their actions unless you directly assisted them.
I don't think anyone makes the Gacy association, though I wonder to what extent this is because Gacy was a gay Democratic organizer, and thus has too many counter-signals in his identity. But we are told, every single day, by the dominant institutions of power and culture, that we are responsible for the actions of Derek Chauvin. We're told every single day that everything from microaggressions at work to the bullets from a policeman's gun are products of the swirling cauldron of whiteness, and that we all contribute to it from the day we are born, and that we must drain our lives and resources in silent deference and atonement. Comments like these only highlight that some groups get the privilege of nuance, while others must simply endure being treated as an amorphous mass of social toxins.
And that's setting aside that no one had the ability to stop Gacy from being in the country, since he was born an American. Mexican migrants, particularly illegal ones, are here as the result of deliberate policy decisions to do nothing about them. If a father who has just lost his daughter cannot even question the wisdom of those policy decisions, he deserves contempt. But my sympathy is limited, as I'm sure his daughter would have never questioned those policies either, even as the knife went in. Some people just bare their necks to the world.
I actually considered using Chauvin as an example instead of Gacy. I opted for Gacy because his actions are much more unambiguously evil and indefensible. Given this site's bent, there was a possibility that some might believe Chauvin's actions were justified, in which case the example wouldn't work.
Anyway, White Americans are not responsible for Chauvin's actions either.
No one decided to deliberately let in murderers. Yes, if you let in millions of people, some of them are probably going to commit murder. But unless they commit murder at a higher rate, you are not actually increasing the natives' probability of being murdered. In that case, highlighting individual murders committed by immigrants is dishonest fearmongering.
The question then is whether immigrants do commit violent crimes at a higher rate. Apparently this is not the case and illegal immigrants actually commit less violent crime than natives.
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