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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 19, 2023

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/shows/meetthepress/blog/rcna90023

Apparently there’s been a big drop in conservative support for gay marriage, all in the space of a year.

I think this says a lot, mainly because it’s a point I see brought up by a lot of the blackpillers in this community “look, look - even conservatives support gay marriage now, there’s no stopping progressivism”.

Well, what now? Apparently the left has pushed too hard and too fast and it’s turning the GOP away. Being LGBT isn’t seen as some harmless thing anymore, especially when it seems being “tolerant” means accepting gay drag nuns on crucifixes. The parodies are no longer a parody, and grooming children to accept gender ideology seems rife in schools even in deep red states.

Recently I read about a Muslim city in america voting to ban the pride flag. This is just one example of the incoming shift and realignment being forced by progressive extremism becoming more forcibly mainstream

Apparently there’s been a big drop in conservative support for gay marriage, all in the space of a year.

People are saying this is big, but it doesn't seem nearly big enough given how obviously duped conservatives who supported this (heck even progressives) were by the propaganda. Lets examine the sales pitch for gay marriage.

  1. We just want what's fair. False. They immediately demanded everyone participate.

  2. This wont affect your family. False. You and your family will constantly be in court battles to keep your family together against state agents attempting to castrate your kid.

  3. This will normalize the gay community. False, they are more depraved in public than ever.

  4. Love is love. Maybe?

We just want what's fair. False. They immediately demanded everyone participate.

How? Being able to marry someone (and have the social benefits that come with it) is fair.

Is this about the cake thing (shopping around for a bakery that wont make a gay wedding cake, just to bring them to court)? Sure, I disagree with what happened there but isn't that painting with a rather large brush? I would also say holding all religious people to the actions of a crazy church would be wrong too.

You and your family will constantly be in court battles to keep your family together against state agents attempting to castrate your kid.

Do you really think this happens a lot? Maybe it's because I went to public school but I had a few teachers that were waaaay out there. I think the only difference is that now, there's social media. Yes, there are crazy teachers... It's an odd profession. But like everything, we need to keep the big picture in mind.

Note: Teachers how take it too far are bad. Some of the push back is very justified.

This will normalize the gay community. False, they are more depraved in public than ever.

I don't understand this point. Can't we say being gay is fine but maps are bad? Or must we adhere to a slippery slope?

So a small percentage of people are crazy, therefore everything is bad. Is that really your argument?

I would also say holding all religious people to the actions of a crazy church would be wrong too.

Do you genuinely believe "the actions of a crazy church" are comparable to malicious litigants attempting to create binding legal precedents that they can weaponize against their enemies?

I think if we specify the church as the Westboro Baptist Church, then yeah, that actually sounds a bit like what they do.

The WBC never filed lawsuits against anyone, to my knowledge. People they protested filed lawsuits against them, and they won those lawsuits because "being crazy" is not a bar to exercising First Amendment rights.

You might be surprised! At least according to this article, it looks like their strategy is to try and provoke their potential targets into trying to ban them, then sue them for 1st amendment violations and regularly rack up tens of thousands in court fees. It's not a bad racket when half your family are lawyers.

Edit: whoops, link was borked.

Wasn’t the wbc financing themselves through lawsuits at one point?