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@ fellow sleepyheads
"I have a healthy sleep cycle. I sleep for 8 hours each night, at the end of which my body wakes me up naturally in the morning. I get up and do not feel tired through the day."
"To feel no tiredness upon waking up in the morning, regardless of whether I am woken up naturally, by an alarm, by someone else (etc.), I must sleep at least 10-11 hours a night."
Both of these claims can be true at the same time. They're both true for me. But online advice about sleep cycles has zero real advice for this issue. I don't really care about whether I'm getting the correct amount of sleep. OK, I do, but it's secondary.
My problem is that I don't want to feel tired in the morning for my first 10 minutes of awake-ness. I want to get up after 8 hours and feel awake, not groggy, not sleepy, not 'I want to go back to bed'. To get this feeling, I must sleep at least 10-11 hours a night. There are all kinds of guides on 'how to feel more awake' once you're already awake, taking cold showers, going for a jog, going outside, opening the curtains immediately etc etc.. But by the time I'm doing this, I'm already awake; I may as well just have a coffee.
Is there any way I can change this? I want to eliminate the 10 minutes of morning misery after I wake up after 'only' 8 hours of sleep.
I'm a male so YMMV.
IME, petting the one-eyed snake any few hours before sleeping is guaranteed to result in a bad wake-up. If I don't beat my meat for a few days, I wake up naturally without any grogginess in 6-7 hours. If I let the genie out of the bottle >2-3 times a day, I'll have to sleep 9 hours to wake up without grogginess.
Not sure if my experience is even close to a subset of universal, let alone replicable for a woman. But something something dopamine receptors? Try avoiding pre-sleep screen time as a proxy and see how that works.
Conversely, I sleep way better after having proper sex.
Sex and jerking off are not the same things at all.
Yeah, my experience is that both your point and his are true.
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