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Culture War Roundup for the week of August 14, 2023

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I get the impression that regular holocaust narrative, where it’s the most heinous crime in human history bestowing endless moral authority to the god’s chosen people ultimate victim, is on its way out. It cannot survive pop intersectionalism. There are too many victim groups with a stake in the pie and they don’t have the baggage of having to defend Israel’s right to take over a land by treating its inhabitants as untermenschen and concentrating them in ghettos.

In the near future any slander against the holocaust narrative from the wrong people will still be a big taboo but it will be the “allies” with their own holocaust claims and grievances who will dilute the moral authority of the holocaust.

I get the impression that regular holocaust narrative, where it’s the most heinous crime in human history bestowing endless moral authority to the god’s chosen people ultimate victim, is on its way out. It cannot survive pop intersectionalism.

What gives you this impression? I am seriously doubtful this is correct.

I think mainly the demographic change in elite Western circles and the accompanying ideological shifts. South and East Asians are taking over in astonishing pace. This comes at the expense of Jews and gentile whites who have a direct cultural line with the WW2 and associated traumas. The newcomers will assimilate the local sensibilities to a degree but ultimately it’s difficult to convince these people why the holocaust is so special compared to countless atrocities their own ancestors suffered.

Pretty sure the asian countries were involved in WW2... and had some pretty major events come from it as well? Sure maybe the Holocaust specifically isn't as important, but the Holocaust represents more than just Jews getting killed in Germany. It's cast as the center and most important aspect of WW2, the reason for sparking it.

Perhaps I'm culturally ignorant though. I'm also skeptical of narratives of rising asian superiority.

It's cast as the center and most important aspect of WW2, the reason for sparking it.

Only by the ignorant. The Holocaust didn't really get going until after WW2 did; the extermination camps were all in occupied Poland. And the extent of it wasn't generally known until late in the war. The European theatre of WW2 happened because Hitler started taking over Europe, not because of the Holocaust.

It's cast as the center and most important aspect of WW2, the reason for sparking it.

Doesn't this lead to, if there had been no jews, there would have been no WW2?

but the Holocaust represents more than just Jews getting killed in Germany. It's cast as the center and most important aspect of WW2, the reason for sparking it.

For the grandchildren of the Anglo soldiers who fought in it, yes, this is true. But I don’t think this applies to the grandchildren of the people’s liberation army militia. Why should the holocaust mean anything to them at all? It’s just historical trivia that rape of Nanjing and auschwitz happened at the same conflict technically.

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