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I think I found this more interesting than the original biography review by Scott. There is a lot of distilled wisdom in these posts.

However, there is one area that always rubs me the wrong way. It is smart people who don't know dumb people talking about intelligence.

Where I am now in life I interact almost exclusively with smart people. Not just high IQ wiz kids with no experience. But people that have both the raw brain power, and the life experience to be sharp and wicked smaht. I'm in a rich neighborhood, and wealth has a noticeable correlation with IQ. I currently work for an institution that employs academics who must explain their work to the media (so they can't just sit in an ivory tower and write illegible crap). I use to work at a tech company that for quite a few years basically gave people an IQ test before they could join, and they were willing to fire people who didn't work out (the selection effects weren't perfect but they were certainly noticeable). My college friends were mostly from an "honors" section that got scholarships and accolades for academic achievements.

This was not always the case.

I went to highschool in a nice-ish area. The highschool was pretty decent for where I lived, but it still had noticeable rates of teenage pregnancy, drunk driving fatalities, minor gang fights (no more than temporary hospitalizations), about a fifth of the school below the poverty line, and a racial mix that actually came pretty close to matching America's general racial mix.

This highschool had dumb-dumbs. Probably something close to an average amount of dumb-dumbs. But at the time it was painful how many of them there were. I am smart for the general population, but a bit of a dumb-dumb when I get into smart people circles. 95th percentile on SATs. 1 in 20 seems only ok, but in a random class of ~30 kids I was likely to be the smartest or 2nd smartest. And its not the academic under performance that ever bothered me. I wasn't in any position to judge, I did well on standardized tests, but I was solidly a B student at best. Most of the material seemed dumb and stupid. We were all often doing equally bad at it. It was the everything else that bothered me about interacting with chronically stupid people.

I often heard people brag growing up that they were "street smart" while some academic achiever was "book-smart". This gave me the false impression that there were two kinds of people out there and there was just a trade off between the two. That was badly wrong. Some people are just dumb. They can fail to learn how to read, and fail at not walking into oncoming traffic, and fail at not picking a fight with a group of kids that will kick their ass. There are people that just seem to make repeatedly bad decisions in all areas of their life. I grew to hate these people, because loving and caring about them was too painful. To watch them make terrible decisions again and again, no matter how you advise them, no matter how much you try its like they seem determined to make their own lives a living hell by refusing to understand the world around them.

Bringing this back around to Elon Musk:

Yes he is smart. He is very smart. If he doesn't seem that smart compared to the people around you, then congratulations you live in a smart person bubble. I live in one too, its great! No one is ever making terrible decisions that might casually endanger me. No one is starting physical fights, because words hurt their brain too much. They know all the latest social norms, and when to violate the silly ones to make a joke. I can have deep conversations with them about nearly any topic, they might not know the details, but if I make it interesting they will pick it up and participate. The people around me know how to manage their money, so they aren't ever begging me for handouts, or trying to nickle and dime me on shared expenses.

The phrase "check your privilege" comes to mind, but the tone that people normally use feels very wrong. Just imagine me saying it in the same way a surfer says "kowabunga dude!" while offering a high five.

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Absolutely!

Some of my random experiences in tertiary education:

"When Muhammed was born, was that the 6th century AD or BC?"

What do you think AD or BC means? Who was your history teacher in high school? (TBF I'm actually not sure that they covered the history of Islam in the curriculum, possibly for being politically sensitive re Aisha, Arab conquests... but you can bet the Crusades were covered!) Anyway, why would you ask the professor this easily searchable question - your laptop is right in front of you!

I just cannot follow instructions and I'm going to slow down everyone else constantly

I cannot be bothered to read any of the articles we were assigned to read before class and come up with a single analytical, methodological or vaguely smart sounding thing to say when I know the professor is going to ask pairs of us for some such conclusion because he's done that every week in a row. I guess it's OK because at least half the class don't bother doing any of the reading either and make up some BS on the day.

In a group project I'm not going to lift a finger before the second last day and then, once my partner has done all the work, I'm going to add in some low-quality work that undermines what he's saying. Though I will at least admit that I wasn't very helpful once the project is done.

I don't claim to be some ubermensch with limitless willpower and unsurpassed intelligence. But basic standards for knowledge, intelligence and discipline are rock-bottom even where there's supposed to be a selection process to weed out the stupid people.

Anyway, why would you ask the professor this easily searchable question - your laptop is right in front of you!

As a smart kid who did ask easily searchable questions even when I already knew the answer: you don't ask your professor questions because you want to know the answer, you ask your professor questions to prove you're engaged and interested so as to improve her opinion of you. As for slowing all the other kids down - sorry classmates, but this is a War Of All Against All, if your learning must suffer so I can get extra credit, then that is a sacrifice I am very willing to make.

War Of All Against All

What grading on a curve does to society...

I bet you wouldn't do this with a male professor. I do feel quite bad for the academics who actually publish serious publications about important topics like nuclear war - and also have to baby these ignorant, lazy and unsophisticated undergrads. I could tell that he was smart enough to emotionally manipulate the students into thinking he was cool (I heard one of them comment that he had good vibes), to keep his evaluation scores up. But what a waste of his time trying to gently nudge them into paying attention to his class without pressuring them (and inevitably making them feel unsafe or stressed)!

At the risk of sounding snarky, the feminization of academia has been a disaster for Western Civilization. What happens when we run into an actually stressful, demanding, time-critical situation and nobody actually knows how to function because they've never experienced anything like it?