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Israel-Gaza Megathread #1
This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
We just saw what happens when Gazans aren’t stopped from breaking the border fence and going into Israel. I think live fire was fully justified, both at the time and in retrospect.
They shot more than 6,000 people and only 183 died? What were they being shot with?
That’s about 33:1.
These ratios are similarly odd:
The large-scale killing and maiming of 30 March last year, when 18 people were killed and over 700 people shot, and of 14 May, when 60 people were killed and over 1100 people shot, must not be repeated. “The shooting must stop,” said Sara Hossain.
For comparison, Steven Paddock killed 60 and wounded 400, about 7.6:1. And he wasn’t even aiming at anyone in particular. The report says that protesters were shot by military snipers.
In addition, even the UN sheepishly admits that the protestors engaged in "significant violence" but that it doesn't technically constitute a "combat or military campaign". Hamas did what it always does: It deliberately mixes violent, dangerous offenders with children and other sympathetic victims, and when in the chaos the sympathethic victims are hurt, they go complain and pretend it's Israels fault. In comparison, Hamas goes into a village and deliberately executes children.
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Notes -
I see your killings and raise you shooting at protestors:
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2019/02/no-justification-israel-shoot-protesters-live-ammunition
We just saw what happens when Gazans aren’t stopped from breaking the border fence and going into Israel. I think live fire was fully justified, both at the time and in retrospect.
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They shot more than 6,000 people and only 183 died? What were they being shot with?
That’s about 33:1.
These ratios are similarly odd:
For comparison, Steven Paddock killed 60 and wounded 400, about 7.6:1. And he wasn’t even aiming at anyone in particular. The report says that protesters were shot by military snipers.
In addition, even the UN sheepishly admits that the protestors engaged in "significant violence" but that it doesn't technically constitute a "combat or military campaign". Hamas did what it always does: It deliberately mixes violent, dangerous offenders with children and other sympathetic victims, and when in the chaos the sympathethic victims are hurt, they go complain and pretend it's Israels fault. In comparison, Hamas goes into a village and deliberately executes children.
Where can I read about this from a credible source?
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The Israelis use .22 LR rifles as "less-lethal" weapons, IIRC. That's what's probably going on here.
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