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Israel-Gaza Megathread #2

This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.

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It's an outpost of my civilization, organized on principles I agree with, inhabited by people I could live at ease with. They defend themselves, their borders, their interests, with the kind of vigor and thick-skinned determination I'd like to see my nation display. (If only!) I admire them and wish them well.

John Derbyshire most likely cannot live in Israel or among a representative sample of Israelis any more than he can live among immigrants to the West he hates so much.

I increasingly suspect that the only correct decision for any sane person is converting to Judaism or at the very least relinquishing any claim to being white, because Christian whites are just brain-damaged and cannot tell a universalist ideology (even "nationalism") from a population's game-theoretically advantageous modus operandi. Strong vibe of round-headed Slavic Hitlerists.

It is absurd to assume that a more competent entity sharing your material interests is your ally rather than a competitor.

I increasingly suspect that the only correct decision for any sane person is converting to Judaism or at the very least relinquishing any claim to being white, because Christian whites are just brain-damaged

I am tempted to go to church right now purely out of spite.

Wtf is this nonsense and laziest possible name calling?

John Derbyshire most likely cannot live in Israel or among a representative sample of Israelis any more than he can live among immigrants to the West

That depends, presumably, on why he hates the immigrants (in Derbyshire’s case the answer is surely every conceivable reason, but still). I recall your comment about Germans and Turks, something about the older generation’s general anti immigrant position being itself a rather thinly veiled “just don’t like ‘em” racial revulsion, in your opinion.

But I don’t know that all European anti-immigrant sentiment is such. Much is a more general aesthetic reaction to crime, squalor, poor upkeep of homes (especially exteriors), unappealing dress and so on. Israel has plenty of all of the above (part of my complaints about it last month, or whenever that was), but there is enough Western civilization left in parts for an expat to find a decent life, provided, probably, that he can learn Hebrew.