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I wanted to post this over at /r/slatestarcodex but it's obviously CW material and surely someone should bring it to Scott's attention, as it wins him quite a large number of prophet points I suspect...
NPR reports that these American birds and dozens more will be renamed, to remove human monikers.
The story is... well, pretty much exactly what you think it is, I bet.
I don't really care? Except that I do care, to just this extent, as I've written before:
I am not an ornithologist. I'm not even a bird-watcher. The closest I've ever come is snapping an occasional photo of a bird that catches my attention. These changes have nothing to do with me... except, of course insofar as they represent the continued burning-down of the contributions of "my" culture to humanity's broader understanding of the world. The active removal--dare I say "erasure?"--of the past, so as not to offend the sensibilities of the present.
(But mostly, I'm once more astonished by Scott's peculiar prescience...)
My first instinct was to check Wikipedia to see if the blue-footed booby is in danger. No sign on the article that a rename is afoot.
The penduline tit also appears to be safe, for now.
Though given that donglegate actually happened, I would think names such as these would scare off more people than names of human beings, especially innocuous names with no negative connotations of their own like Anna or Lewis.
”Things all started to change in 2028 when JaQuarius Washington was smothered to death by the massive mommy milkers of officer Laura Campbell during a routine traffic stop gone horribly wrong…”
This gives me some ideas for a final solution for the incel problem by combining BLM with MAID.
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Or right! You don't know the man, and it might well be that the only reason he didn't protest is because he was too busy enjoying it.
Either way, body cam footage is inconclusive, because anything below the neck is covered by a hemispherical object that stretches from horizon to horizon.
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