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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 19, 2022

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What about the Pagans makes me care that they have opinions? Are they building anything? It is the perennial issue with the Pagans that they feel sidelined by Christianity but never seem to actually do anything. Excepting the libertines of course.

Concerning the larger narrative about prods ruining Christianity forever, the time period of where most trad caths have their complaints associates with the modernist controversy and the second great awakening more than anything else, but it seems too much to expect them to attend mass so not knowing the history is excusable.

Tradcaths have like a 98% church attendance rate and are strongly overrepresented in right wing institutions, including at least one sitting supreme court justice plus another one who died relatively recently. They're also a large component of the intellectual wing of the further right/dissident right, including advising the current regime in Hungary.

Now sure there are many people on twitter who would like to live in a tradcath society without actually being tradcath, and these people should just move to St. Mary's Kansas and stop tweeting. But it's debatable whether these people are tradcaths or not- certainly most IRL tradcaths would not consider someone who never goes to mass and may or may not actually believe any Catholic doctrine to be one of them.

I think the difference I'm getting at is that there are actual IRL tradcaths who are mostly an offline movement and engage in a real, meaningful, and effective amount of IRL political activity, control at least one town in the USA, and are serious enough to invite meaningful backlash from the powers that be, and that this group is largely distinct from twitter larpers(and in fact are mostly unaware that extremely online people pretend to share their religion; the median tradcath can point to celebrities who share their religion but this group will almost certainly not include Dasha from red scare, and probably not anyone else primarily known for their political punditry). It is unclear whether the same can be said about paganism.

Now sure there are many people on twitter who would like to live in a tradcath society without actually being tradcath, and these people should just move to St. Mary's Kansas and stop tweeting. But it's debatable whether these people are tradcaths or not- certainly most IRL tradcaths would not consider someone who never goes to mass and may or may not actually believe any Catholic doctrine to be one of them.

Oh generally the ones that don't attend mass seem to be sedevacantist as well, which is rather weird. It is more anecdote of people who ram into my DMs making the argument that prods ruined Christianity and did liberalism. The ones that don't realize that traditional Protestantism is seeing just as much an explosion as they are, and don't call me a modernist for being a prod.

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