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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 19, 2022

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The win for the left here was to house the migrants for a while, refuse to raise a fuss about it, quietly find new accommodations for them and send them along

I've seen progressives in my facebook feed saying that the left did just that. I don't think it was specifically the people in Martha's Vineyard, but maybe other people from MA mainland. I see leftists on facebook saying that this just proves that republicans suck and are cruel, and leftists are compassionate. So if you're saying the opposite came to pass, clearly there are two different worlds happening, and that means that no one is going to learn anything, and everyone is just going to stick to/create their own narratives to satisfy their own worldviews.

For the record, I haven't followed this story at all, so I have no clue if your account or the progressive account is closer to the truth (and I also don't trust very much the specific progressives on my facebook who said this, I know them personally and they're brainwashed people). But what exact actions are you referring to when you say this:

The actions they're taking seem to be revealing that they REALLY take it personally when the GOP manages to slip a trick by them that doesn't get leaked in advance and so puts them on the defensive.

So if you're saying the opposite came to pass, clearly there are two different worlds happening, and that means that no one is going to learn anything, and everyone is just going to stick to/create their own narratives to satisfy their own worldviews.

Same as it ever was.

Although I think Desantis and Co. have learned something about pulling off covert political stunts and maximizing the outrage received for effort input. Just impose a little discomfort and inconvenience on the wealthiest communities in the country!

But what exact actions are you referring to when you say this:

The attempts to smear Desantis as a 'human trafficker,' to the point of opening up a criminal investigation in Texas? That's in the OP's comment. There's also a lawsuit in Federal Court now.

Oh, also the decision to unironically refer to the situation as a 'Humanitarian Crisis', which certainly implies that the situation at the U.S. border must be at least a couple orders of magnitudes worse as a crisis.

So if you're saying the opposite came to pass, clearly there are two different worlds happening,

AIUI, the migrants were given cots in meeting room in a church for 1-2 evenings, then escorted off the island by the national guard to a military dormitory. At no point did any one of the compassionate, rich progressives offer to put someone up in a hotel room, much less let a family use an empty beach house for the weekend.

But what exact actions are you referring to when you say this:

The aid given and compassion shown was more or less the absolute bare minimum needed to calmly make the poor brown people go away ASAP. Conversely, we've seen much more effort put into flattering themselves in the media, and launching furious legal and PR attacks back at DeSantis for making them look bad. When, remember, there are probably 5 figures worth of residents who could have each put the entire group up in a resort hotel for a week for pocket change.

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