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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 11, 2023

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What does the light at the end of the tunnel look like?

Look, every now and then I stop watching my footfalls and get pensive. And one of the things I've gotten pensive about the past few days is this: the Western culture war is not going to last forever, which means it's going to end. And when it does, how will we look back on this mad time?

Two of the answers are obvious:

  1. If the culture war ends in X-catastrophe, then we won't look back on it at all, because there will be no more historians.
  2. If SJ wins, it'll look back on now much the same way it looks back on the '50s right now, with maybe a few mentions of Nazis added.

But what I can't really put together is the third option, the narrative that will be told if SJ is indeed just a passing phase, either because Red/Grey defeated it or because it wins and then turns out to be unsustainable. Frankly, the Blue Tribe's been writing all the history books since before I was born, so it's hard for me to even picture it. And that troubles me; it's the scenario I think is most likely, and the one I'm to at least some extent trying to bring about, so if I don't have a good idea of what it even looks like that's kind of an HCF. "It is not enough to say that you do not like the way things are. You must say how you will change them, and to what."

So, how will the people in that scenario think of this time? What story will they tell?

(To the SJers here: feel free to answer, if you think you understand your opposition, or feel free to correct me if you think my #2 is uncharitable.)

We see it now that folks on the left have a fond nostalgia for the dawn of the social movements of the 60s, and never mention where those ideas ended up: Jonestown, NAMBLA, Black Panther Party and its spin-offs torturing and assassinating one another, bombings, kidnappings, Foucault fucking little boys bent over headstones in Algerian cemeteries.

The country rejected the leftist social revolution when it elected Reagan, and that seemed to give permission to much of the left to forget the excesses, focus their hate on Reagan, and wish for another Woodstock.

This is more of just some thoughts your post made me think of than officially a response.

The New Left were hardly punished for their crimes, then got to work in elite companies and universities and literally raise the next generation of these kinds of radicals who are destroying our cities today. Reagan was just a temporary ceasefire for these kinds of people, which allowed them to reorganize more effectively and create the situation we are in now. These are the kinds of people who celebrated a Black Panther Party member who bragged about raping white women as a political act. There was never hope of reasoning with these people.

The fact that this was allowed to happen for 60 years and people are only now freaking out because they are threatening Jews tell you all you need to know about what's been going on here. The country's plebs may have rejected The Movement of the 1960's, but many of the elites didn't and even participated in it with fond memories. If you get any regret out of them at all, it is just for the violence. They still stand by their political views for the most part, and all their views have more or less become main stream today in academia and the chattering class. The universities have finally just come up against something they will actually get push back and serious consequences for.

But make no mistake, nothing is stopping this train short of a coup. Nixon, Reagan, and Trump couldn't, so I don't know why anyone is thinking anything different will really happen in the future other than a continuation of what's happened since the late 1950's.

Nixon, Reagan, and Trump couldn't, so I don't know why anyone is thinking anything different will really happen in the future other than a continuation of what's happened since the late 1950's.

When I said I think it's most likely, I'm pricing in nuclear war very heavily. Sudden loss of half the city population means country-based conservative parties will have a lot of power and still be on a culture war footing.