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The Supreme Court, and conservatives in general, do not want people to have gun rights. They want to make an abstract legal point about the Constitution, but they'd be horrified if it had any practical effect. "Sure, you have the right to keep and bear arms. But what makes you think that means you can carry a GUN?"
Seem pretty uncharitable, maybe you mean just DC conservatives? Or city conservatives?
I've never lived in an area more dense than "suburban". And I can say I've never had a neighbor against gun rights. I've had plenty of liberal and democrat voting neighbors. Most of them have owned guns.
This issue has always seemed like a "rural vs urban" thing. Party lines have also tended to break down along those lines lately. But if I had to take a bet, I'd say the gun rights debate breakdown is better characterized by rural vs urban than it is by republican vs democrat.
They can be treated with charity when I can buy and carry a gun. Or at least they're not declaring victory when in fact I still can't buy a gun. Until then I'll judge them harshly as deserved.
I mean I guess my complaint is less about charity than accuracy. You seem wrong about your assessment. I guess I'm curious if I'm missing something big or you just wanted to shit on conservatives. Sounds like the latter though.
You're missing that when push comes to shove, conservatives will not push the fight, and will side with the institutions. gattsuru mentioned above "refuse to be ruled". Well, suppose one were to do that by violating one or more of these gun regulations. And one were to get caught, and the state to come down on you like a ton of bricks. What would a conservative who previously advised "refuse to be ruled" say about that? I'm fairly sure it would be something along the lines of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". Conservatives who can get guns because they're in a community where guns are a thing and they can jump through any hoops the state puts in their way anyway treat gun rights like a sort of intellectual game; they want to make the point that they have the right to keep and bear arms. But they don't give a shit about it being enforced in other communities that are more hostile to gun rights. That's why, for instance, there's been no move to challenge the interstate purchase rules.
Do you live in a large city? This is the only thing I can think of that would prompt this level of annoyance.
I own guns, I consider myself very pro second amendment, I don't know or honestly care that much about how difficult it is to get a gun in a city. My solution to them having shitty gun laws is to not go there. I'm also not in the habit of picking political fights for other people.
I'd love it if you explained to my wife that me owning guns is actually an intellectual pursuit. Right now she is under the mistaken impression that I'm just a big boy with disposable income and I'm buying big boy toys.
A themotte.org meetup in your backyard, for the purpose of convincing your wife that owning guns makes your family very intellectual and sophisticated sounds like a worthy endeavor.
Haha, that would probably have the opposite of the intended effect. I'd not be opposed to a meetup in northern virginia if anyone is around though.
I'd mostly want to do it for the look on her face. "I'm sorry, you flew in from WHERE for all this?", but to be honest I don't know if I could make it. This shit was easier when I was in my 20's.
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