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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 22, 2024

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Say the EU forces a two-state solution which includes EU administration of Jerusalem and the resettlement of all Jewish settlers out of the West Bank. Is a Palestinian state going to attack Tel-Aviv? Or Jewish locals in EU-administered Jerusalem? Then it's the EU's problem to solve that. That's a better arrangement than America being forced to fight all the enemies through the Middle East of a rogue Israel which it doesn't control.

This does assume a remilitarization of Europe which is already underway due to Russian aggression against Ukraine.

Is a Palestinian state going to attack Tel-Aviv?

Probably, after all the Gazans will still have their grievances and have tried to disrupt / violate peace negotiations before. They consider Tel Aviv / Jaffa their land.

Is a Palestinian state going to attack Tel-Aviv? Or Jewish locals in EU-administered Jerusalem? Then it's the EU's problem to solve that.

And how do they solve that?

That's a better arrangement than America being forced to fight all the enemies through the Middle East of a rogue Israel which it doesn't control.

The US isn't being forced to do anything. It's choosing to support Israel which is retaliating against Hamas. It can stop at any time if it doesn't like what Israel is doing.

I do blame Biden for enabling the status quo. It's going to destroy his legacy, particularly if things continue to escalate.

Is a Palestinian state going to attack Tel-Aviv?

Why not? In your fantasy, the Palestinian position is better, and much closer to victory than they are today. We know to what extent Europeans will go to disarm Arabs and impose a peace. Europeans are not prepared to trade their lives for peace in Israel, and even if they were, then I don't see why they themselves don't become the "rogue state" destabilizing the Middle East. A European force that is willing to occupy and pacify Gaza/West Bank could very well be even more threatening to a power like Iran than the Jews are today. The devil you know and all that.

I don't even disagree that if lasting peace becomes a desirable goal, then Israel's right should have to come to terms with the reality of a two-state solution. It is possible the West could play a role in making this happen, but it does feel as if we are further from this fantasy than we were 20 years ago.

Israel's right should have to come to terms with the reality of a two-state solution

Or just do some good old fashioned ethnic cleansing. They're probably extremely cynical about the possibility of civilizing the Palestinians, understandably so.

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